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hey everyone welcome to dual fob live

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stream uh today is supposed to be open

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lines and still is but uh because the

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last few times some of you have been

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very shy I made sure to actually have a

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friend of mine his name is Michael

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Babcock and he's a wealth of information

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and we'll be covering a variety of

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subjects and I'm very excited to talk to

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him about those but if you decide to

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join us please join the telegram group

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that's going on right now as well and

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it's actually a voice only and it's I

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think delayed a little bit so you might

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have to choose between watching or being

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on telegram but it's when you join that

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voice chat that's when you can raise

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your hand and I can bring you into

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either share your story when it's your

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time or maybe even ask a question of

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Michael I'm sure you wouldn't mind I

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didn't check that with him beforehand

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but we'll work it out and so

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um basically I also wanted to cover real

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quick uh it's raining cats and dogs here

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so there's very strong wind and I'm not

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sure sometimes times it's actually known

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to have some power interruptions or the

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internet going down so if that ever

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happens uh one or the other then you'll

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know why and I didn't want to skip over

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today because I I wanted to kind of

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establish every Wednesday at seven to

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always have something for you all so

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anyway let's roll with it and we'll see

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what happens so anyway you can always

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still ask questions

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um I'm sure most of you will chat with

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each other right now the stream is going

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live on Facebook twitch and YouTube If

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there's a question directed towards me

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or Michael please make sure to include

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an asterisk or three asterisks before

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your question so that way it'll pop out

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at me and I know it's meant for me and

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not the regular uh

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um chat room chatter

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so okay so anyway the uh the link for

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telegram is actually in the description

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below this video and also on Facebook

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and twitch and basically once you join

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telegram you can install it on your

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phone or on your computer and while

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Michael and I are chatting they'll give

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you enough time to actually install it

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and join us if you're interested so I

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think I've covered everything and uh let

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me unmute this here

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and yeah Michael thanks for being on Can

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You Hear Me

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well welcome Michael I'm glad you're

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able to do this today with me and uh we

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did talk about was it over a year ago

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um I believe but I'm glad you're back

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and um I basically just want to open the

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floor and um you know fire away

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okay so

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um you want to talk about UFOs now yeah

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yeah uh share your stories uh whatever

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you have whether it's an experience or

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whatever you had planned

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yeah well I I wanted to talk

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experience I had when I was nine years

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old but I also wanted to talk about some

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uh dowsing because I've been dousing for

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about uh 22 years and I think it would

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be something everybody would be

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interested in but first

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um I'll relate a story I uh that I

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experienced when I was nine

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um I um I have I I'm a part of a family

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that there were eight kids

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and it was about 1965 and we're at a

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drive-in theater

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you who've never probably seen one is an

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outdoor movie theater where you stay in

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your car and you drive up and you can

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put a speaker on your window and you

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have this huge screen in front of you

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you can watch a movie

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so I'm going to call I'm in this station

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wagon and I've got two sisters on my

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right and one sister on my left I'm in

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the middle we're all crunched in

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watching this movie that none of us are

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and most of the kids in the car are

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and then my mom goes oh my God what is

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that and I thought all right the movie's

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getting interesting right and I go what

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what she goes no no above the screen

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above the screen and there were these

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two glowing orbs not two if you give me

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three three glowing orbs and it looked

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like they were like when you would see

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like a ball or something floating on

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water they would they were floating like

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I was sitting the perspective I would

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say there were probably six inches in

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and then they were just floating and

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then all of a sudden they stopped and

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they kind of like locked

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and they all started to move together in

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a sequence and they were rotating around

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spinning around each other

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and then the police pulled up in front

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of the drive-in theater

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and the drive-in theater has all this

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pea gravel on the ground and when they

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stop all this dust came around the

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screen and I'm trying to get out of the

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car I want to see better so I opened the

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door and I slide over my sister and land

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on the ground

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and this pea gravel and I'm picking this

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pea gravel out of my hands while I'm

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looking at these three objects in the

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sky it's like some kind of orchestrated

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effect I mean the way they moved in such

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a uh uh I guess a uh coordinated uh way

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with each other and the police were

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there and you can see the red lights

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reflecting off of other buildings

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and all of a sudden they stopped and

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then they turned like I guess they were

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what they were they were facing us

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their disc side towards us and then when

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they all three they like flattened out

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and you can still see them and they look

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like saucers and they all three together

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darted off to the Northwest and

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disappeared

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and I'm like well this was the first

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time I've ever experienced anything like

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that I mean it was I never was

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interested in that sort of thing and

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then uh this occurred

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well I get back in the car and my mom

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starts saying well those are UFOs and I

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go what's that she goes well those are

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spaceships uh from other planets and I

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go really I I no she says really those

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are spaceships that come from other

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planets and there's people in there and

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they're curious

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I go wow you know I was so excited I

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didn't want to watch the movie I wanted

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to talk about this you know well that's

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kind of faded every and most of the kids

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in the car were they slept through the

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whole thing but outside man people got

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out of their cars they're still talking

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there's groups of people forming and

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they're all talking

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and I'm sitting there in a seat where I

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was now this time next to the door I

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pushed my sister over

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and I guess about a half hour passed and

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from behind us all it was like a big

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floodlight was flying over to the

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theater and it was so bright that it

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that it like flooded out the picture on

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the on the TV or on the uh Motion

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Picture screen and I look out the back

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window and I could see two more of them

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flying from behind this in formation and

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the first one came up and it went it

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went like like it turned up on its side

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so you could see like a disc

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and the second one came and it turned up

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in the third one and they floated

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they locked they did that same formation

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thing

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and then they flew off

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and it was like wow I mean they were

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these when they came over the second

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time Adnan they were so bright I mean it

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was like daylight it was they had such a

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bright light underneath them

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and then after that happens this is what

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this was really strange

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it was like I understood like what these

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crafts were and I understood that

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I had some kind of understanding I don't

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know how to explain it but I'm nine

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years old and I know they have like two

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Drive systems in them they use one to

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jump you know great distances and they

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use another one like when they're within

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a solar system for the smaller distances

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that they would travel or they travel in

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the atmosphere I knew how the drives

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weren't built I knew where the first

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drive was the second Drive I don't even

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know how I knew all this it was just

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coming to me

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and so I started drawing pictures I had

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this like three ring binder and I'm

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drawing all these pictures

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um of of The Craft of what it looks like

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where the where the drives are where the

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occupants would sit and the control

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panels and I'm nine years old I don't

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know any I don't know where I knew all

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this right

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so now I'd be you know like I'd be going

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to school be sitting on the school bus

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and I've sit by myself if somebody sat

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in the seat next to me I go do you know

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what a UFO is and they look at me like

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no we saw them at the drive-in and I

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take my notebook out and I start showing

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it to them and talking to about the

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drive system it got to the point where

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nobody wanted to sit next to me because

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um enthused about this

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and I and I would like have dreams I

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would dream about these I would say I

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could see massive sleeps of them and I

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knew that they were on their own that

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there was a bigger ship that they would

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that they would uh hook up with and dock

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um so this was something that I lived

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with for quite some time

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and uh I was all I I was always

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wondering about well where did they come

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from who are they you know are they

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friendly you know that sort of thing and

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um but I've never I I never came across

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anybody that had a similar experience to

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that uh I was around other UFO groups

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later in my life in my 20s and 30s but

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um I never came across anybody that had

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that experience

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and I had

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emailed a good friend of mine about this

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event that we're doing tonight and told

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them about it and he sent me a link in

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Amazon link to a guy that has a book out

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called UFOs at drive-in theaters

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and it's by a guy named uh Preston

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Dennett

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d-e-n-n-e-t-t you can find that on

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Amazon it's you can get it in Kindle or

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paperback I haven't read it yet but um

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he was telling me that he goes wow he

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goes there's a lot of people that have

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had similar experiences to that so that

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was the first time I've ever heard about

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that so that was that was my experience

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with the UFOs and then shortly

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afterwards I started becoming very

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interested in Spiritual Development and

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if actually all the kids in our family

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started getting this um interest in

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spiritually developing ourselves and uh

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and not necessarily being attached to a

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church but doing things like we were

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reading uh books by uh what was his name

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um a great psychic um uh Edgar Casey and

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my mom was she was promoting this and

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helping us with this and and uh it was

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just uh it was I guess the beginning of

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the journey that I've been on for the

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remainder of my life except to this

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point

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well you know that's actually you know

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pretty cool from your mom's end to

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actually just be you know that matter of

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factual to just say yeah this is who

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they are and and even if she didn't know

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100 sure you know on you know on your

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own through experiences or whatnot just

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to be that open-minded especially at

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that time I'm not saying how old you are

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how old what what decades we're talking

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about while you were nine but still you

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know um I don't know my parents still if

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it's not in the newspaper it's not real

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yes yeah yeah

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she uh my mom gave us or gave me after

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that experience she gave me uh three

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books by George adamski how to look

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you're familiar with him it was

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spaceships had landed Inside the

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Spaceships and I forgot what the third

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right later in life

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um I came across

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um what was it his name uh Meyer in

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Switzerland Michael Meyer

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it has one arm

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right oh actually it's not Michael Meyer

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no or Mike yeah let me see but he's he's

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in Switzerland and um and he was making

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contacts with the Pleiadians

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right right um I'm probably saying to

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Billy Meyer yep that's right Billy the

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Kid yeah yeah it was wasn't it uh

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tractor accident that he had that's how

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he lost his arm yeah he's been he had a

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very interesting life if you just read

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up his story he was um traveling

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everywhere

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um uh just all kinds of odd jobs and and

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things that I don't know I guess if

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you're just that kind of Soul traveling

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around that's what I guess you end up

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doing and add to your life's resume

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yeah yeah and he he spent some time in a

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in a ashram in India

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and so you know and he was he he related

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his uh experience there where they saw

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on a regular basis a lot of ships you

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know visited the ashram in the sky

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kind of like what uh up there in uh

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Washington they do at that ranch up

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there

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um what's the guy's name uh I've I've

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seen him a couple of times but he has a

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ranch I think it's in Washington Oregon

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and you can go there and there's ships

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up here in the sky all the time up there

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uh does he have a beard long hair Daddy

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yeah yeah right

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um I don't know I guess uh you and I

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both are kind of uh um out of it it's

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usually I'm really quick with these with

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these things I actually have a uh his

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picture in my head we uh with Ozark we

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tried reaching out to invite him to be

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one of the speakers but he never

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answered so

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um I just left it at that

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yep

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yeah so you know I mean I I um I really

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don't connect with a lot of uh any UFO

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group actually

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um I I to me it's a settled issue yeah

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they're there and I don't really go

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along with uh green but he says you know

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they're all you know it's Kumbaya

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they're all good now my experience has

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been there's evil ones and there's good

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ones you know there's good ETS there's

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evil et's and um right now we I really

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believe the Earth is being influenced

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greatly by uh evil et's but also there

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are good ETS that are influencing us to

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stand up to this and to uh eradicate it

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ourselves because there is yeah James

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Gillian there is no there is no one

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going to come and save us it's us if we

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don't do it it ain't gonna happen but if

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we do it I think we've got a great

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chance of of being a part of the Greater

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Community

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um that we live in in this universe

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I wanted to ask you something real quick

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uh because I know you're not we go way

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back uh still during the St Louis times

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when I still live there and

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um we actually met I don't know which

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one of those meetings uh was it at the

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bowling alley but anyway the point I'm

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trying to make is um you know a lot I

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know when it comes to the field and I've

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been around a lot of people that are

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into UFOs and there's very very few are

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actually just looking for some kind of

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Savior and those are the ones who I'd

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say what you are pretty much saying is

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it's us we've got to do our part

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um others actually I don't know I've

397
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just always founded that the message is

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given are great messages to to follow

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and and kind of as you always say in the

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newest new age Community raise your

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vibrations which most people don't don't

402
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meet squat you know um but I always

403
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found that you know the information

404
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given to channeling was you know it's

405
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very helpful if you follow up on it you

406
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know and um yeah it's like I don't I

407
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don't know uh when it comes to a lot of

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um a lot of people out there are in the

409
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field they're either researching or

410
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um they're either been experiences but

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you know I don't find them that that

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prevalent really anymore maybe in the

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very beginning like 15 years ago where

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they're like oh they're coming to save

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us they'll give us technology and fix

416
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our problems you know but it seems like

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either those people are stop going to

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meetings you know or they just

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understood a different thing about them

420
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now I don't know what are your thoughts

421
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well you know Adnan uh there was um

422
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there was a TV series that came out in

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in the 90s and it was about this these

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aliens that showed up one day in the sky

425
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and they were going to be Our Saviors oh

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they had medical technology and all

427
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kinds of Technology but their motive was

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they were going to take over the Earth

429
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and rape it of its resources I look at

430
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it like that if anybody comes with uh in

431
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a ship and says that they you know

432
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they're here to help us and give us this

433
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technology I guarantee you there's going

434
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to be strings attached to it and I agree

435
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with you it's up to us we are the ones

436
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that have to make the change and when we

437
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make the change it'll be a natural

438
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progression to uh uh come to meet up

439
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with the ETS that are benevolent uh just

440
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like in your life if you have however

441
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you hold in your mind uh your thoughts

442
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those are the type of people and

443
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experiences that you're going to attract

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to yourself

445
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same thing if you're looking for a

446
00:19:02,210 --> 00:19:00,360
savior believe me there's plenty of them

447
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in line that'll that'll be glad to step

448
00:19:06,890 --> 00:19:04,500
up for you but like I said the strings

449
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attached isn't going to be what you uh

450
00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:08,820
are really going to want

451
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okay right

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00:19:16,370 --> 00:19:14,100
um so um uh were there any regarding

453
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your story did you see those ships ever

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again later on in Life or was that

455
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pretty much the only time that you have

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a memory of that was the only time that

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I seen ships like that

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um when I was living

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um in the house on before I'm living in

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right now which was kind of out in the

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country not quite like you were when you

462
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were out in what was that pacific

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Roberto

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Robertsville yes yes that was really

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dark I mean where you lived if you turn

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the lights out you couldn't see your

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hand in front of your face I lived out

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an area it was not quite that dark and

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it was a nice evening it was a summer or

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spring evening I'm sitting out on my um

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uh in my front yard and it's a beautiful

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night I mean the stars were just

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brilliant and I started noticing like

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stars were missing and then they would

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disappear and they would come and it and

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if you kind of saw the outline it was

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like a big triangle and it was just

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circling just on a big circle towards

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the horizon

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and

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EarthCraft it's one of those whatever

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tr3bs right what it was because at that

483
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time I was pretty close to Scott Air

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Force Base and they've been having they

485
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were having sites over there in Illinois

486
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at Scott and I thought wow and if this

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is a tr-3b it was huge it was large

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and uh and there was another time oh

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about two years ago right where I'm at

490
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and I was listening to Penny Kelly

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and so one evening I thought okay I'm

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gonna do what penny Kelly said and I

493
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made it I kind of put it out there

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psychically I said

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um I think it was directed towards

496
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um Valiant Thor and his people

497
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and I doused it I doused it first and

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yes Valiant Thor is real and there are

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is that there are people that uh he's a

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part of um and they do live on Venus

501
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and so I just put it out to him psychic

502
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way I said look you know I'm willing to

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work with you guys if there's something

504
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that I can do to contribute I'd be glad

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to contribute

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um just you know let me know I mean Give

507
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Me A Sign let me know

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and I dropped it and I just let it go

509
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and about three weeks later I was

510
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watching our neighbor's dog they were on

511
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vacation so I went over there about

512
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three o'clock in the morning and I let

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him out in the yard and it was a

514
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beautiful night I'm just sitting out

515
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there and I see this it looked like a

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star but it was a little bit bigger than

517
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a stock and it was stuck it was cruising

518
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real slow overhead and I directed my

519
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thought to it I said look all right if

520
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you are benevolent then just stop and it

521
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stopped it's like oh I said holy crap

522
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you know I'm going okay

523
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um and if you're a benevolent I said if

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you are part of valiant Thor in their

525
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group then you know I I uphold my word

526
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said if you want me to work with you

527
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I'll work with you and it just stayed

528
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,020
there and hovered and then it just

529
00:22:24,289 --> 00:22:21,840
slowly moved on and I'm thinking I'm

530
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,299
thinking okay that's not a coincidence

531
00:22:28,690 --> 00:22:26,400
that was an event

532
00:22:32,990 --> 00:22:28,700
and nothing nothing has come of it since

533
00:22:34,909 --> 00:22:33,000
but I think uh Penny Kelly says it is

534
00:22:36,169 --> 00:22:34,919
they check you out for a while you know

535
00:22:37,850 --> 00:22:36,179
they want to see where you're coming

536
00:22:40,669 --> 00:22:37,860
from what you're about

537
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:40,679
and um they'll contact you usually

538
00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:42,960
through drains and thoughts and things

539
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,440
like that so I haven't had any other

540
00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:48,720
um experiences

541
00:22:52,250 --> 00:22:50,580
yeah it's interesting you say that you

542
00:22:53,930 --> 00:22:52,260
know not not a lot of people have been

543
00:22:55,610 --> 00:22:53,940
over what used to live in Robertsville

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Missouri where all my experiences were

545
00:22:59,450 --> 00:22:57,780
happening but when I tell them I lived

546
00:23:01,610 --> 00:22:59,460
in the boonies you know unless you've

547
00:23:03,470 --> 00:23:01,620
been there you would not you know they

548
00:23:05,870 --> 00:23:03,480
just think people exaggerate when they

549
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:05,880
say oh you live out you know out there

550
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,440
somewhere or whatever but technically

551
00:23:12,350 --> 00:23:09,840
you're like right next to highway no I

552
00:23:14,270 --> 00:23:12,360
mean it's it's it's nice to have one

553
00:23:15,890 --> 00:23:14,280
other person that can confirm like no I

554
00:23:19,730 --> 00:23:15,900
was out there out there

555
00:23:22,010 --> 00:23:19,740
oh yeah yeah yeah it was dark too I mean

556
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:22,020
adenine it was dark

557
00:23:25,010 --> 00:23:23,760
yeah don't you turn the lights out and

558
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:25,020
then and then we're all out there with

559
00:23:30,770 --> 00:23:27,360
what uh flash cameras taking pictures

560
00:23:33,169 --> 00:23:30,780
and and there it is all over the place

561
00:23:36,350 --> 00:23:33,179
right why don't you tell a little bit

562
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,360
more about that um what was basically so

563
00:23:40,909 --> 00:23:38,640
let me just preface here real quick so

564
00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:40,919
I don't remember exactly how how this

565
00:23:45,169 --> 00:23:43,260
happened but one of uh the groups I was

566
00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:45,179
basically uh part of and you were there

567
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,400
too and then I just put out a um

568
00:23:50,990 --> 00:23:49,200
generally I didn't want to invite too

569
00:23:52,909 --> 00:23:51,000
many people but I wanted to people that

570
00:23:55,850 --> 00:23:52,919
that I personally liked I know it's so

571
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:55,860
selfish of me you know but to me my home

572
00:23:59,930 --> 00:23:58,080
was so you know it's it's a it's a Holy

573
00:24:01,490 --> 00:23:59,940
Ground it's like so only only people

574
00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:01,500
that I really agree with I would like

575
00:24:04,490 --> 00:24:03,720
them there you know I don't you know I

576
00:24:05,930 --> 00:24:04,500
don't

577
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:05,940
um just didn't want to invite strangers

578
00:24:09,409 --> 00:24:07,440
that I don't know and all of that just

579
00:24:11,270 --> 00:24:09,419
wanted to enjoy just a nice evening with

580
00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:11,280
friends but of course like with

581
00:24:15,289 --> 00:24:12,840
everything else I don't know that this

582
00:24:16,730 --> 00:24:15,299
was planned I just knew like people were

583
00:24:18,649 --> 00:24:16,740
coming over and the next thing you know

584
00:24:21,529 --> 00:24:18,659
it always has to turn you know um

585
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:21,539
metaphysical and so anyway with everyone

586
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,720
there go ahead continue the story

587
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,120
well I think most of the people that you

588
00:24:31,549 --> 00:24:29,760
invited were dousers we doused

589
00:24:33,409 --> 00:24:31,559
and we're having dinner we're all

590
00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:33,419
sitting around him and we're talking

591
00:24:39,289 --> 00:24:35,580
and Sandra

592
00:24:41,330 --> 00:24:39,299
she um that's her thing is is Orcs And

593
00:24:44,029 --> 00:24:41,340
she got to talking about it well you

594
00:24:46,909 --> 00:24:44,039
know we all had our phones and that so

595
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:46,919
after dinner we all go outside and you

596
00:24:51,049 --> 00:24:49,440
turn the light off and man I mean I

597
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:51,059
didn't dare take a step man I couldn't

598
00:24:55,549 --> 00:24:53,039
see anything and all you see all these

599
00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:55,559
slashes everybody say you know we're

600
00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:57,240
pointing our cameras towards the woods

601
00:25:00,890 --> 00:24:58,740
and we're pointing them towards the

602
00:25:02,330 --> 00:25:00,900
house everywhere and taking pictures and

603
00:25:04,010 --> 00:25:02,340
then you turn the lights on we go back

604
00:25:06,110 --> 00:25:04,020
inside and sure enough

605
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:06,120
there's these orbs all over the place

606
00:25:11,149 --> 00:25:08,880
Sandra had the most I think I had one or

607
00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:11,159
two everybody had like one or two but

608
00:25:16,610 --> 00:25:13,919
Sandra had and a bunch of them but see

609
00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:16,620
she she's been working with this for a

610
00:25:23,270 --> 00:25:20,340
long time and she has them apparently

611
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:23,280
they they attract tour they came they

612
00:25:27,049 --> 00:25:26,400
they follow her around or whatever and

613
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,059
um

614
00:25:32,450 --> 00:25:29,760
she at her house she showed me pictures

615
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:32,460
of of them and she even had one that

616
00:25:36,830 --> 00:25:34,559
kind of looked like a like a butterfly

617
00:25:38,930 --> 00:25:36,840
in the tree it was like it was pitch

618
00:25:40,610 --> 00:25:38,940
black but you could see it was on a limb

619
00:25:44,090 --> 00:25:40,620
and it looked like a little butterfly

620
00:25:46,730 --> 00:25:44,100
and um it's like wow this is uh this is

621
00:25:48,769 --> 00:25:46,740
very uncanny well if I if I may add

622
00:25:51,289 --> 00:25:48,779
something real quick here especially so

623
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,299
would for those that

624
00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:54,240
that I wear about what orbs are it's

625
00:25:59,330 --> 00:25:57,000
generally just the uh a camera capturing

626
00:26:01,970 --> 00:25:59,340
these these different orbs of of energy

627
00:26:04,970 --> 00:26:01,980
that is generally not you know we can't

628
00:26:06,289 --> 00:26:04,980
see with our own eyes and so a lot of

629
00:26:08,090 --> 00:26:06,299
times I always had the argument for

630
00:26:10,010 --> 00:26:08,100
people it's like oh this you're out

631
00:26:12,289 --> 00:26:10,020
there there's it's dust and the Flash

632
00:26:14,029 --> 00:26:12,299
happens to catch a you know a little

633
00:26:16,190 --> 00:26:14,039
dust particle that reflected the light

634
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:16,200
and that's what you captured right and

635
00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:18,480
when that's the case that would be the

636
00:26:22,610 --> 00:26:20,340
case but with these they were so

637
00:26:25,250 --> 00:26:22,620
intricate too because it would be you

638
00:26:28,490 --> 00:26:25,260
know uh let's say Circle you know the

639
00:26:32,029 --> 00:26:28,500
size of a half a human length but like

640
00:26:33,769 --> 00:26:32,039
behind a person and then others are in

641
00:26:35,090 --> 00:26:33,779
front you know and it's like and so how

642
00:26:38,029 --> 00:26:35,100
does that happen it's like how do you

643
00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:38,039
reflect a dust particle behind a person

644
00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:40,440
but reflecting it in like a three foot

645
00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:42,600
diameter for example so anyway I just

646
00:26:46,010 --> 00:26:44,580
wanted to add that part that's what got

647
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:46,020
me very interested because generally

648
00:26:49,610 --> 00:26:48,240
whatever people want to do I'll leave it

649
00:26:51,049 --> 00:26:49,620
be but when they were when she was

650
00:26:53,630 --> 00:26:51,059
talking about orbs it wasn't necessarily

651
00:26:55,549 --> 00:26:53,640
my my interest at that time but after

652
00:26:57,470 --> 00:26:55,559
she took some of those photos and

653
00:27:00,649 --> 00:26:57,480
brought in whatever she brought in I was

654
00:27:04,850 --> 00:27:00,659
I was hooked after that yeah yeah yeah

655
00:27:06,590 --> 00:27:04,860
yeah yeah I um and after that experience

656
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:06,600
and none

657
00:27:12,110 --> 00:27:08,640
um because I do you know I'm a real

658
00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:12,120
estate broker and as an investor and I

659
00:27:16,850 --> 00:27:13,860
invest in properties and I manage

660
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:16,860
properties I had a guy that said hey

661
00:27:20,810 --> 00:27:18,840
would you manage my property up in

662
00:27:23,149 --> 00:27:20,820
Florissant Missouri I think you know

663
00:27:24,890 --> 00:27:23,159
where that is up by the airport yeah I

664
00:27:28,490 --> 00:27:24,900
said yeah I'll do it so

665
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:28,500
so I uh I went over there and

666
00:27:31,070 --> 00:27:29,039
um

667
00:27:33,230 --> 00:27:31,080
well first of all I got I had I got a

668
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:33,240
tenant in there I got it I put a tenant

669
00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:37,200
in and single single mom three kids nice

670
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,159
gal

671
00:27:42,830 --> 00:27:40,799
and in six months I get a call from her

672
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:42,840
ex-husman says I gotta get my wife out

673
00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:45,840
of there she's like raving screaming

674
00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:49,980
crazy whatever I go wow okay I said I

675
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:51,480
don't have any problem we will break the

676
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:52,799
lease no problem

677
00:27:57,529 --> 00:27:55,679
so I go over there and I take pictures

678
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,539
because I'm going to put it on

679
00:28:02,570 --> 00:28:00,000
Craigslist as a rental

680
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:02,580
I get home I look at my pictures there

681
00:28:07,490 --> 00:28:05,760
are so many there are so many orbs it

682
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:07,500
looks like fog

683
00:28:13,130 --> 00:28:10,559
and so I call my friend

684
00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:13,140
um one of the people in the dowsing club

685
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:16,440
and I shared it with her and we're both

686
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:18,960
we're dousing it and we come up with

687
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:22,320
that these were Native Americans that

688
00:28:25,789 --> 00:28:24,480
were caught in a crossfire battle during

689
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:25,799
the Civil War

690
00:28:30,529 --> 00:28:29,039
and for them it was only a few moments

691
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:30,539
that had passed

692
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,200
and they were frightened

693
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:35,520
they were confused

694
00:28:44,269 --> 00:28:36,960
and

695
00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:44,279
we asked the Divine to give them uh

696
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,380
whatever helps Aid and assistance they

697
00:28:53,330 --> 00:28:49,200
needed to move on

698
00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:53,340
um and um so the next day I go over

699
00:28:57,529 --> 00:28:55,320
there and on the same camera same

700
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:57,539
everything went to the same locations in

701
00:29:04,909 --> 00:29:00,320
the house took the same pictures nothing

702
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:04,919
zero zip nada so I was I'm from that day

703
00:29:09,710 --> 00:29:06,960
forward I was like I'm totally convinced

704
00:29:12,830 --> 00:29:09,720
that these digital cameras can pick up

705
00:29:15,649 --> 00:29:12,840
stuff but I found out uh that was that

706
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:15,659
was probably about 12 or 13 years ago

707
00:29:21,409 --> 00:29:18,600
but I found out that people were talking

708
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:21,419
about this and so Apple quote unquote

709
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:24,240
they fixed their their cameras so that

710
00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:26,880
it doesn't happen anymore so I can't I

711
00:29:30,529 --> 00:29:28,380
can't say that I don't have the newest

712
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:30,539
Apple camera or the newest Apple phone

713
00:29:36,889 --> 00:29:34,320
phone but uh the I still have the my

714
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:36,899
original uh my iPhone that I shot the

715
00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:40,080
the orbs on I haven't tried shooting it

716
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,600
since right but I do know there's

717
00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:44,159
something to it

718
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,620
well um Michael you know since you

719
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:48,480
brought up dowsing a few times uh can

720
00:29:54,409 --> 00:29:50,880
you please just go ahead uh describe for

721
00:29:56,210 --> 00:29:54,419
everyone what what dowsing is and how

722
00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:56,220
the process works on all of that I

723
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,539
figured it'll be a good time to get into

724
00:30:02,389 --> 00:29:59,520
it but I would like to ask you a

725
00:30:04,549 --> 00:30:02,399
question real quick from um uh from

726
00:30:06,289 --> 00:30:04,559
labels that's watching right now uh

727
00:30:07,570 --> 00:30:06,299
Justin before we move on with the next

728
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:07,580
subject

729
00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:11,520
okay okay uh label's just asking um uh

730
00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:14,520
your opening story about uh siding in a

731
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:16,620
drive-in was interesting was your mother

732
00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:18,240
so nonchalant because she had

733
00:30:22,909 --> 00:30:20,520
experiences most people back then

734
00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:22,919
wouldn't respond in the way that you

735
00:30:27,529 --> 00:30:25,020
described

736
00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:27,539
well you know my mom I don't know if you

737
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:28,980
guys remember this

738
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:31,200
um if anybody ever knows about this

739
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,840
there was a magazine called fate fake

740
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:36,000
magazine and it was kind of like they

741
00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:37,440
had all kinds of stories in it about

742
00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:41,460
UFOs and uh paranormal and all that and

743
00:30:45,230 --> 00:30:44,100
she she read that from the time I could

744
00:30:48,110 --> 00:30:45,240
ever remember

745
00:30:50,029 --> 00:30:48,120
so she was interested in this and then

746
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:50,039
of course she had the Georgia damski

747
00:30:54,889 --> 00:30:50,880
books

748
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:54,899
and uh so after this experience she was

749
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:56,940
a little bit more open about it with us

750
00:31:01,310 --> 00:30:58,799
but before that she would mention things

751
00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:01,320
that not really you know she I guess she

752
00:31:06,169 --> 00:31:03,720
was just testing the waters to see how

753
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:06,179
responsive we were to it and after the

754
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:08,460
ex after that experience because it was

755
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:12,240
myself my mother and my stepfather

756
00:31:16,669 --> 00:31:14,760
and I think one one other one of my

757
00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:16,679
other sisters woke up I'm not sure which

758
00:31:19,850 --> 00:31:18,600
one but

759
00:31:22,490 --> 00:31:19,860
um

760
00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:22,500
after that we we talked about it uh

761
00:31:27,289 --> 00:31:23,820
quite a bit

762
00:31:29,389 --> 00:31:27,299
amongst ourselves more more so

763
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:29,399
okay thank you for that

764
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,919
all right um so yeah uh please uh tell

765
00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:33,360
us about dancing

766
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:35,460
okay well

767
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:37,679
um I'll just kind of presume that nobody

768
00:31:43,010 --> 00:31:40,020
uh that nobody out there really knows

769
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:43,020
anything about housing dousing is a is a

770
00:31:48,049 --> 00:31:46,320
a way of being able to connect with your

771
00:31:50,330 --> 00:31:48,059
Divine self

772
00:31:51,370 --> 00:31:50,340
I look at it as a physical feedback

773
00:31:54,529 --> 00:31:51,380
system

774
00:31:57,470 --> 00:31:54,539
that you establish a a base of

775
00:32:00,590 --> 00:31:57,480
communication using uh you can use a

776
00:32:02,330 --> 00:32:00,600
pendulum I use dowsing rods they're like

777
00:32:04,909 --> 00:32:02,340
just basically

778
00:32:07,850 --> 00:32:04,919
um metal coat hangers that are shaped

779
00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:07,860
like a large L and I put the short end

780
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,020
in my hands and they'll move back and

781
00:32:14,570 --> 00:32:12,000
forth they'll crisscross back and forth

782
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:14,580
they'll go straight out and I

783
00:32:19,070 --> 00:32:17,279
established a protocol

784
00:32:22,490 --> 00:32:19,080
as to how we're going to communicate

785
00:32:24,889 --> 00:32:22,500
like okay and I when I first started I I

786
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:24,899
crossed I physically crossed the the

787
00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:28,320
dowsing rods over each other like an ax

788
00:32:32,810 --> 00:32:30,659
and I said this is my yes

789
00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:32,820
and then I would put them completely out

790
00:32:38,810 --> 00:32:35,880
to the side and I said this is my no and

791
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:38,820
then what I've done is my on my route

792
00:32:44,110 --> 00:32:41,760
right dowsing Rod I make that like a

793
00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:44,120
scale like you would have a scale for a

794
00:32:48,769 --> 00:32:46,260
an audio meter

795
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:48,779
and the left one is like the needle that

796
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:51,360
moves across a scale on audio meter so

797
00:32:57,169 --> 00:32:54,480
at the tip that would be 10 or 100 and

798
00:33:00,049 --> 00:32:57,179
all the way in would be like zero and

799
00:33:02,510 --> 00:33:00,059
that way I can say things like well what

800
00:33:05,930 --> 00:33:02,520
would be the level of effect on my body

801
00:33:09,049 --> 00:33:05,940
if I took 100 milligrams of this vitamin

802
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:09,059
C right now and it could give me a level

803
00:33:14,090 --> 00:33:12,000
of that could be zero or if it goes to

804
00:33:16,669 --> 00:33:14,100
the other way where the left

805
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:16,679
Rod stays straight out and the right one

806
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:18,240
becomes the meter those are all negative

807
00:33:22,909 --> 00:33:19,320
numbers

808
00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:22,919
anything

809
00:33:29,930 --> 00:33:26,220
um but um I do get I either get zero or

810
00:33:32,930 --> 00:33:29,940
no sometimes but that's how I establish

811
00:33:34,009 --> 00:33:32,940
a communication system with my Divine

812
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,019
self

813
00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:36,960
and some people use a pendulum and

814
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:38,760
they'll have like a chart like a

815
00:33:43,610 --> 00:33:41,279
circular chart like a circle with with

816
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:43,620
with concentric circles inside of it

817
00:33:48,049 --> 00:33:45,840
with numbers around them

818
00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:48,059
and they'll they'll hold the dowsing or

819
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:50,100
a pendulum and it'll swing back and

820
00:33:54,110 --> 00:33:52,080
forth or it'll they'll ask a question it

821
00:33:56,810 --> 00:33:54,120
will start swinging towards a side of

822
00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:56,820
that uh chart and it would be an answer

823
00:34:01,730 --> 00:33:59,399
I've even seen charts where if you're

824
00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:01,740
going to douse problems for your car and

825
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,559
it'll say transmission or say computer

826
00:34:08,450 --> 00:34:06,960
or whatever and it'll swing towards

827
00:34:10,129 --> 00:34:08,460
those things if you ask what's like

828
00:34:11,869 --> 00:34:10,139
what's the problem with my car right now

829
00:34:14,750 --> 00:34:11,879
and it might swing over towards computer

830
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:14,760
and then you can start digging deeper as

831
00:34:20,990 --> 00:34:17,760
well what's the problem with that so uh

832
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:21,000
that's that's a system of communicating

833
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:24,240
with your Divine self

834
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,760
um and getting a physical feedback and

835
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:29,040
the same thing with tarot cards

836
00:34:34,669 --> 00:34:32,580
um Rune Stones all that is a way of

837
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:34,679
getting establishing a communication

838
00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:37,919
system with your Divine self now the

839
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:39,240
caveat here

840
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:40,320
is

841
00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:45,839
um your Authority

842
00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:48,240
in other words when I first do started

843
00:34:53,389 --> 00:34:50,460
doing this I learned this from Walt

844
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:53,399
woods and Walt Woods is the granddaddy

845
00:35:02,390 --> 00:34:59,040
uh dousing of our of our Uh current uh

846
00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:02,400
um dousing I guess dousing in the in our

847
00:35:06,290 --> 00:35:04,260
in our current time

848
00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:06,300
and he wrote a book called letter to

849
00:35:10,730 --> 00:35:08,220
Robin and you can look this up on the

850
00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:10,740
Internet put in Walt Woods letter to

851
00:35:15,710 --> 00:35:12,420
Robin it'll be the first thing that will

852
00:35:18,349 --> 00:35:15,720
pop up download it it's a PDF and what

853
00:35:21,490 --> 00:35:18,359
he does is he is he if you follow his

854
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:21,500
procedure it is establishes a protocol

855
00:35:28,690 --> 00:35:25,440
as to who and what you are communicating

856
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:28,700
with because when you start delving into

857
00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:32,040
dowsing or tarot cards or anything like

858
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:32,760
this

859
00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:35,880
there's so much crap in the astral plane

860
00:35:40,670 --> 00:35:38,520
that will come in and jack with you and

861
00:35:43,370 --> 00:35:40,680
play like they're like their God or

862
00:35:45,770 --> 00:35:43,380
whatever you don't want that you don't

863
00:35:47,930 --> 00:35:45,780
want to deal with quote Angels you don't

864
00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:47,940
want to you don't want to deal with

865
00:35:53,329 --> 00:35:50,820
anything but the Divine you don't need

866
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:53,339
to deal with angels Spirit guides none

867
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:54,720
of this

868
00:35:58,970 --> 00:35:56,880
um my experience has been that those are

869
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,980
your tip pardon

870
00:36:03,650 --> 00:36:00,720
nope I'm sorry I just had a little

871
00:36:06,109 --> 00:36:03,660
feedback I apologize go on oh okay yeah

872
00:36:07,970 --> 00:36:06,119
my experience has been those things are

873
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:07,980
what I call archons

874
00:36:13,130 --> 00:36:10,980
they are beings that that kind of

875
00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:13,140
straddle our our reality and their

876
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:15,180
reality and and they've been around for

877
00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:16,560
a very long time and they chat with

878
00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:19,500
people uh usually come it'll usually go

879
00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:20,760
to your demise

880
00:36:27,530 --> 00:36:26,280
but I I strictly stay with uh the divine

881
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:27,540
um and

882
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:32,880
Divine but uh some people say that you

883
00:36:38,089 --> 00:36:35,040
know they oh I I don't respect the

884
00:36:40,609 --> 00:36:38,099
Divine because of the way I I teach the

885
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,619
stousing like um I'll give you an

886
00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:42,480
example like

887
00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:45,000
I may see something in the news about

888
00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:48,900
somebody that had something uh happened

889
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:51,240
to them that was very debilitating maybe

890
00:36:57,050 --> 00:36:54,240
they were in a car accident

891
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:57,060
so I would get out my dowsing rods and I

892
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,720
would say divine this person right here

893
00:37:04,510 --> 00:37:02,880
I'm looking at on the internet they were

894
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:04,520
in a car accident

895
00:37:10,430 --> 00:37:08,160
I want you to heal them from the top of

896
00:37:13,069 --> 00:37:10,440
their head to the bottom of their feet

897
00:37:15,050 --> 00:37:13,079
that they totally recover as if nothing

898
00:37:17,329 --> 00:37:15,060
ever happened to them

899
00:37:20,450 --> 00:37:17,339
I want you to do this now

900
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:20,460
do what is necessary and appropriate for

901
00:37:26,030 --> 00:37:24,720
them now so be it thank you thank you

902
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,040
thank you

903
00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:28,320
if you notice there's no groveling here

904
00:37:32,810 --> 00:37:30,420
there's no telling the universe or the

905
00:37:35,390 --> 00:37:32,820
Divine how to do it you just put out

906
00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:35,400
what what it is that you want

907
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,700
and let it do what is appropriate and

908
00:37:42,050 --> 00:37:40,079
while I'm doing this I'm holding my

909
00:37:43,690 --> 00:37:42,060
dowsing rods and my dowsing rods will

910
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:43,700
typically be in the yes position

911
00:37:48,650 --> 00:37:46,560
constantly and sometimes they'll they'll

912
00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:48,660
they'll keep they'll they'll bounce off

913
00:37:53,089 --> 00:37:51,660
my shoulders I'll keep bouncing like I I

914
00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:53,099
try to take it like I'm getting a high

915
00:37:57,770 --> 00:37:55,380
five on it or something but it's just

916
00:38:01,069 --> 00:37:57,780
telling me you're doing this right

917
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:01,079
and I learned I I learned this because

918
00:38:05,930 --> 00:38:02,880
when I was a kid

919
00:38:08,510 --> 00:38:05,940
I had this Bible that was called the Red

920
00:38:12,349 --> 00:38:08,520
Letter Bible and it was all the words

921
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:12,359
that quote Jesus in red letters

922
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:15,720
and so I learned that when when he would

923
00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:18,960
go and heal somebody he didn't grovel or

924
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:21,540
tell the universe how to do it

925
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:24,480
um like an instance when uh Lazarus had

926
00:38:30,770 --> 00:38:27,440
been dead for three days and his family

927
00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:30,780
lazar's family called for Jesus to come

928
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:33,420
and he had other things that he was

929
00:38:37,250 --> 00:38:34,800
doing when he got there the whole family

930
00:38:39,290 --> 00:38:37,260
was pissed you know I was like well you

931
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:39,300
know it's glad you showed up I mean you

932
00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:41,040
know glad you got around coming to visit

933
00:38:44,510 --> 00:38:43,320
Lazarus you know he's dead he's been

934
00:38:45,710 --> 00:38:44,520
dead we got him in the Tomb he's been

935
00:38:47,690 --> 00:38:45,720
there three days

936
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:47,700
and all he did was he turned he says

937
00:38:53,650 --> 00:38:50,400
Lazarus come forward and he did

938
00:38:56,770 --> 00:38:53,660
and it's it's how it's it's commanding

939
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:56,780
the universe it's commanding this energy

940
00:39:03,530 --> 00:39:00,720
to do as you command it to do it's not

941
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:03,540
an ego thing it's who we are our

942
00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:06,720
Divinity within us and I've developed

943
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:09,720
this through the dowsing system the

944
00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:12,480
dowsing system for me was a way that I

945
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:14,760
could I could get a feedback immediately

946
00:39:19,970 --> 00:39:17,040
to know that I'm on the right track

947
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:19,980
and so I made a deal with the Divine I

948
00:39:24,410 --> 00:39:22,440
said well if there's people that need

949
00:39:26,089 --> 00:39:24,420
help or some situation that needs

950
00:39:28,730 --> 00:39:26,099
correct it then bring it to my attention

951
00:39:32,089 --> 00:39:28,740
and I will stop what I'm doing and I

952
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,099
will do this and it's amazing uh it's

953
00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:34,800
been doing this and

954
00:39:37,490 --> 00:39:35,700
um

955
00:39:40,970 --> 00:39:37,500
I've been and here's the amazing thing

956
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:40,980
I'll do I've done things like this and I

957
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,560
just let it go I'm done and I say so be

958
00:39:47,930 --> 00:39:46,079
it make it so thank you thank you thank

959
00:39:50,510 --> 00:39:47,940
you I let it go

960
00:39:52,730 --> 00:39:50,520
and I might it might be two weeks later

961
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,740
and I get some news and it's like that

962
00:39:57,290 --> 00:39:54,960
person that I had prayed for I find out

963
00:39:58,670 --> 00:39:57,300
that they recovered and so right there I

964
00:40:01,069 --> 00:39:58,680
just stopped what I'm doing and just say

965
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:01,079
thank you divine thank you thank you

966
00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:03,180
thank you for doing this and then I I

967
00:40:08,450 --> 00:40:04,980
just go on I move on to the next thing

968
00:40:11,630 --> 00:40:08,460
and so the dowsing has helped me because

969
00:40:15,950 --> 00:40:11,640
it gives me that feedback that I need to

970
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,349
well also um I think

971
00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:20,160
all right I forgot which one of the

972
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:22,079
meetings it was because with it's at

973
00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:23,640
least before I moved to Arkansas there

974
00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:26,160
were what like three at least three

975
00:40:32,569 --> 00:40:28,380
meetings going on each month in San Luis

976
00:40:34,730 --> 00:40:32,579
and um uh some of them were very uh you

977
00:40:37,609 --> 00:40:34,740
know um very Hands-On you know that

978
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:37,619
building uh copper pyramids uh doing all

979
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,180
kinds of uh stuff that were actually

980
00:40:43,010 --> 00:40:41,280
like start testing some of these things

981
00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:43,020
we always only read about in the books

982
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:46,200
and I think um uh one time I don't know

983
00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:49,020
if it was you or somebody else where

984
00:40:53,870 --> 00:40:50,760
um they didn't show okay this is how you

985
00:40:56,450 --> 00:40:53,880
hold the rods and uh this is what what

986
00:40:58,130 --> 00:40:56,460
actually is a feedback versus you just

987
00:40:59,870 --> 00:40:58,140
shifting your body and then the rods

988
00:41:01,730 --> 00:40:59,880
moving on their own you know because

989
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:01,740
there there said when something specific

990
00:41:05,930 --> 00:41:04,079
happens it's very clear really like I

991
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,940
didn't do anything why did it just you

992
00:41:10,490 --> 00:41:07,680
know especially what got me is when they

993
00:41:12,650 --> 00:41:10,500
go both the opposite directions the the

994
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:12,660
one in the right goes right the one on

995
00:41:15,710 --> 00:41:14,400
the left goes left and it's like I

996
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:15,720
didn't even move

997
00:41:19,250 --> 00:41:17,040
um but anyway that's always that's

998
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,260
always interesting to kind of get that

999
00:41:22,670 --> 00:41:21,119
feedback because I think there's some

1000
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,680
people out there that are very

1001
00:41:27,410 --> 00:41:25,200
enthusiastic about it and they just you

1002
00:41:28,970 --> 00:41:27,420
know get into let's say that subject and

1003
00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:28,980
then they get themselves in trouble

1004
00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:30,540
because they don't spend the time to

1005
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,760
understand it more so then it's easily

1006
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:34,560
debunked by just looking it's like hey

1007
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:36,960
you're holding this wrong or hey um your

1008
00:41:41,569 --> 00:41:39,359
body postures this wave where it's bound

1009
00:41:43,310 --> 00:41:41,579
to go the certain direction you have to

1010
00:41:43,970 --> 00:41:43,320
truly you know

1011
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:43,980
um

1012
00:41:49,370 --> 00:41:47,280
be kind of this this perfect vessel in a

1013
00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:49,380
way because then you know it actually

1014
00:41:53,810 --> 00:41:51,300
reacts to the things you ask it to do

1015
00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:53,820
you know if you're especially like

1016
00:41:58,010 --> 00:41:56,339
getting closer to one of the things I

1017
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:58,020
think I was testing like getting closer

1018
00:42:03,290 --> 00:42:01,200
to an electrical outlet you know and it

1019
00:42:05,569 --> 00:42:03,300
was just nothing nothing and then opens

1020
00:42:07,609 --> 00:42:05,579
up because that field is kind of

1021
00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:07,619
you know be you know kind of coming

1022
00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:09,960
outwards from that outlet and I guess

1023
00:42:14,329 --> 00:42:12,060
that's how it registered to me that okay

1024
00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:14,339
this you know whatever it was projecting

1025
00:42:19,130 --> 00:42:17,400
it's starting you know at this point

1026
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:19,140
mm-hmm

1027
00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:21,119
yes

1028
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,000
um yeah I am

1029
00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:26,400
we we did have we were having quite a

1030
00:42:30,530 --> 00:42:28,200
few meetings in St Louis

1031
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:30,540
um and I'm thinking about starting

1032
00:42:35,089 --> 00:42:33,359
another uh group that makes that makes

1033
00:42:37,010 --> 00:42:35,099
the monthly here and say once we have no

1034
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,020
we have no doubting groups right now

1035
00:42:41,450 --> 00:42:39,119
that I know of I've not seen any

1036
00:42:44,210 --> 00:42:41,460
but um yes

1037
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:44,220
um one of the things that uh I once I

1038
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:47,040
really want to help people with is to

1039
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:50,160
formulate in their mind

1040
00:42:56,210 --> 00:42:53,040
um their thinking patterns because with

1041
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:56,220
dowsing the act the more accurate you

1042
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,800
are in the question that you ask is the

1043
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:00,960
more accurate the answer will be

1044
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,720
the more vague you are or brought a

1045
00:43:08,809 --> 00:43:06,000
question you ask the broader the answer

1046
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:08,819
will be and it and a lot of times you'll

1047
00:43:13,370 --> 00:43:10,560
not see the result

1048
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,380
right one of the things uh a lot of

1049
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:15,359
people may ask is will I make more money

1050
00:43:19,490 --> 00:43:16,980
this year

1051
00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:19,500
well that's a broad question

1052
00:43:24,410 --> 00:43:21,720
you would need to ask something more

1053
00:43:26,569 --> 00:43:24,420
like will I make at least 10 percent

1054
00:43:28,609 --> 00:43:26,579
more income this year than I made last

1055
00:43:31,790 --> 00:43:28,619
year now that would be a question to ask

1056
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:31,800
that now it's measurable

1057
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,560
um another thing I found is

1058
00:43:38,809 --> 00:43:36,480
um this is something that I use all the

1059
00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:38,819
time it's kind of like saying well X

1060
00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:41,400
happen in y amount of time in other

1061
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:45,720
words would uh my friend James find a

1062
00:43:51,170 --> 00:43:48,480
job uh within

1063
00:43:53,690 --> 00:43:51,180
um six months where he makes at least

1064
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:53,700
three thousand dollars a month you see

1065
00:43:57,050 --> 00:43:55,680
how that's that's a very specific

1066
00:43:59,210 --> 00:43:57,060
question

1067
00:44:01,930 --> 00:43:59,220
and if I ask what's the percentage of

1068
00:44:04,970 --> 00:44:01,940
probability of James finding a job

1069
00:44:07,010 --> 00:44:04,980
within three months uh within six months

1070
00:44:08,809 --> 00:44:07,020
making three thousand dollars it will

1071
00:44:12,890 --> 00:44:08,819
give me a percentage of that probability

1072
00:44:16,190 --> 00:44:12,900
if it's you what I found is anything 70

1073
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:16,200
below 70 percent probably will not

1074
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,040
happen

1075
00:44:21,770 --> 00:44:20,400
and anything 70 and above is a very good

1076
00:44:24,050 --> 00:44:21,780
chance it will happen

1077
00:44:26,829 --> 00:44:24,060
now there was there were situations

1078
00:44:29,630 --> 00:44:26,839
where I would ask the Divine questions

1079
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:29,640
and it was very low

1080
00:44:36,829 --> 00:44:33,599
and I would say Okay Divine can you make

1081
00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:36,839
this happen can you bring this up to at

1082
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:38,460
least you know can you bring this up to

1083
00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:40,020
100

1084
00:44:44,809 --> 00:44:42,180
and it will and and usually it will say

1085
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:44,819
yes and then my next question is will

1086
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:47,760
you do this if I ask you to do this yes

1087
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:51,599
okay so then take and then Divine do

1088
00:44:57,470 --> 00:44:53,760
whatever is necessary and appropriate to

1089
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:57,480
make the uh Corrections so that this can

1090
00:45:03,770 --> 00:45:00,960
be now brought to 100 percent

1091
00:45:05,569 --> 00:45:03,780
make it so thank you thank you thank you

1092
00:45:07,790 --> 00:45:05,579
and then I'll douse it again and I'll

1093
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:07,800
say okay what's the percentage I'll go

1094
00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:09,599
right through that same question and

1095
00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:11,640
it's amazing and actually if I keep the

1096
00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:14,040
rods there I'll start seeing it the rods

1097
00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:16,200
start going up until it hits a certain

1098
00:45:20,270 --> 00:45:18,900
point and sometimes it'll hit a hundred

1099
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,280
percent but a lot of times it'll get

1100
00:45:26,569 --> 00:45:22,560
around 90 and it'll just stop

1101
00:45:28,450 --> 00:45:26,579
so that that's that's how what I do to

1102
00:45:32,569 --> 00:45:28,460
take control of

1103
00:45:35,569 --> 00:45:32,579
my guess the environment around me so I

1104
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:35,579
don't feel I don't feel like a victim to

1105
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:38,880
life I feel like you know I can ask the

1106
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:42,240
Divine if it will change things and make

1107
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:44,880
it you know and make the corrections and

1108
00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:46,800
not just for myself but for other people

1109
00:45:53,329 --> 00:45:49,440
even people I don't even know

1110
00:45:55,490 --> 00:45:53,339
um and so but there is there there was

1111
00:45:59,089 --> 00:45:55,500
a couple of times Adnan where I asked

1112
00:46:02,329 --> 00:45:59,099
the Divine will you heal this person

1113
00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:02,339
it said no they're like well I mean that

1114
00:46:07,010 --> 00:46:03,780
was pretty devastating for me I mean

1115
00:46:09,230 --> 00:46:07,020
that was uh it wasn't an ego thing it

1116
00:46:11,150 --> 00:46:09,240
hurt it would be like if I if I knew

1117
00:46:12,589 --> 00:46:11,160
something was happening to you and I

1118
00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:12,599
asked them to mind to heal you and it

1119
00:46:17,630 --> 00:46:15,420
said no and that would be it would hurt

1120
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:17,640
because you're somebody that I know and

1121
00:46:22,010 --> 00:46:18,720
care about

1122
00:46:23,390 --> 00:46:22,020
but I so I started delving into it

1123
00:46:25,550 --> 00:46:23,400
because I started getting these

1124
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:25,560
impressions of questions to ask and it

1125
00:46:30,829 --> 00:46:28,079
was like oh I'm locked I'm getting

1126
00:46:32,569 --> 00:46:30,839
involved with their karma they have a

1127
00:46:35,210 --> 00:46:32,579
saying that they have to they have a

1128
00:46:38,030 --> 00:46:35,220
past that they have to go through

1129
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:38,040
and by me getting involved with it and

1130
00:46:44,450 --> 00:46:40,319
putting this energy into it can would

1131
00:46:45,770 --> 00:46:44,460
disrupt the karma that they came to to

1132
00:46:48,849 --> 00:46:45,780
experience

1133
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:48,859
so it's only happened a couple of times

1134
00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:52,560
but it the second time it happened it

1135
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,500
was not as devastating as the first time

1136
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:57,839
but now I understand why why it happens

1137
00:47:02,930 --> 00:47:00,720
it's not everything can be changed but

1138
00:47:06,170 --> 00:47:02,940
most things can most things can be

1139
00:47:08,089 --> 00:47:06,180
changed and you can do it through this I

1140
00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:08,099
call it a form of Prayer

1141
00:47:12,530 --> 00:47:10,380
I'm praying but I'm also getting

1142
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,540
feedback at the same time so that I know

1143
00:47:16,370 --> 00:47:14,400
I'm on track with the direction I'm

1144
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,380
taking the dowsing

1145
00:47:20,809 --> 00:47:18,960
you know that's it's very interesting

1146
00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:20,819
considering how

1147
00:47:25,010 --> 00:47:24,180
um how uh how far along thousand came

1148
00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:25,020
because

1149
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,540
um I remember it was always talked about

1150
00:47:32,089 --> 00:47:29,760
Farmers using dowsing to help them find

1151
00:47:34,130 --> 00:47:32,099
water you know on the farm and where

1152
00:47:35,870 --> 00:47:34,140
they're going to dig the next well and

1153
00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:35,880
all that so that was always pretty

1154
00:47:39,710 --> 00:47:37,980
interesting and then going from that to

1155
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:39,720
all the other applications that you had

1156
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:41,160
just mentioned

1157
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:42,960
um just real quick uh for those watching

1158
00:47:49,309 --> 00:47:47,119
so basically if um you would like to

1159
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,319
come on and just share your story

1160
00:47:54,050 --> 00:47:52,079
because that's what open lines is for

1161
00:47:56,210 --> 00:47:54,060
um uh joint telegram that's going on

1162
00:47:58,550 --> 00:47:56,220
right now you can install it on your

1163
00:48:00,349 --> 00:47:58,560
phone or on the computer and then you

1164
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,359
can join that group under the link

1165
00:48:05,210 --> 00:48:02,640
that's in the description below and so

1166
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,220
that way I'll have you on my list and

1167
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:07,440
you can tap a little button that looks

1168
00:48:10,730 --> 00:48:08,940
like a little person raising their hand

1169
00:48:14,690 --> 00:48:10,740
and that tells me that you would like to

1170
00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:14,700
come on and also then the general point

1171
00:48:21,290 --> 00:48:18,060
of open lines is always have guests on

1172
00:48:23,210 --> 00:48:21,300
that have either are famous or they've

1173
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:23,220
published some books you know or and

1174
00:48:28,010 --> 00:48:25,200
whatnot and so people

1175
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,020
um people have their own stories to tell

1176
00:48:32,569 --> 00:48:30,480
you know like I do and Michael has and

1177
00:48:34,730 --> 00:48:32,579
everyone else out there too and so

1178
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:34,740
that's what uh when I have open lines

1179
00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:36,720
that's the whole point of that and so

1180
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:38,940
sometimes during open lines uh people

1181
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:40,260
share about many other different

1182
00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:42,720
subjects it's not always just UFO

1183
00:48:48,050 --> 00:48:45,060
related because UFO Hub at this point

1184
00:48:50,030 --> 00:48:48,060
I've you know covered Bigfoot uh you

1185
00:48:52,849 --> 00:48:50,040
know chupacabra they've been you know

1186
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:52,859
cryptids in general uh ghosts I mean you

1187
00:48:56,569 --> 00:48:54,960
name it anything Supernatural and that's

1188
00:48:58,130 --> 00:48:56,579
what the channel over the years has

1189
00:48:59,569 --> 00:48:58,140
pretty much evolved to because at the

1190
00:49:02,329 --> 00:48:59,579
end of the day you realize that

1191
00:49:05,089 --> 00:49:02,339
everything is one and so that is the the

1192
00:49:06,890 --> 00:49:05,099
general point of open lines today so

1193
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,900
Michael I'm sorry I just had to put that

1194
00:49:11,150 --> 00:49:08,400
out there real quick

1195
00:49:13,490 --> 00:49:11,160
um yeah so no uh were you going to add

1196
00:49:16,609 --> 00:49:13,500
something or or to what I was saying

1197
00:49:22,010 --> 00:49:16,619
about how far along uh dowsing has come

1198
00:49:28,490 --> 00:49:25,609
they do believe that you know um the

1199
00:49:30,170 --> 00:49:28,500
dowsing is kind of a voodoo kind of a

1200
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,180
thing but

1201
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:32,880
um the more I studied it the more I

1202
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,280
found that like I said it's just a way

1203
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:36,960
of community it's a communication tool

1204
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:39,540
that's all it is but what I've what I

1205
00:49:44,809 --> 00:49:42,480
have experienced over the years now is

1206
00:49:46,970 --> 00:49:44,819
as I'm formulating the question in my

1207
00:49:49,250 --> 00:49:46,980
mind I'm already getting the answer and

1208
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:49,260
I've got I'm getting an impression

1209
00:49:53,809 --> 00:49:51,359
and if I'm holding the dowsing rods the

1210
00:49:55,370 --> 00:49:53,819
Dallas like I'll get this impression and

1211
00:49:56,750 --> 00:49:55,380
I'll look down and the dowsing rods are

1212
00:49:59,809 --> 00:49:56,760
already moving in the direction I have

1213
00:50:04,609 --> 00:49:59,819
an impression of and I'm getting flashes

1214
00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:04,619
like a like a Daydream flash of images

1215
00:50:08,990 --> 00:50:07,260
um when I'm asking the question so what

1216
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:09,000
it is what I think it is it's jump

1217
00:50:15,230 --> 00:50:11,400
starting your our intuition our

1218
00:50:16,609 --> 00:50:15,240
Clairvoyant abilities are whatever you

1219
00:50:19,609 --> 00:50:16,619
want to call it like like Penny Kelly

1220
00:50:23,809 --> 00:50:19,619
has she can actually see and hear

1221
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:23,819
images and Visions so that's what I

1222
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:26,640
think it is it's just the the dowsing is

1223
00:50:31,609 --> 00:50:29,280
just the training wheels for your

1224
00:50:33,170 --> 00:50:31,619
Consciousness to develop it's just a

1225
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:33,180
means to an end it ain't an end in

1226
00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:36,720
itself right and you know uh actually it

1227
00:50:40,550 --> 00:50:38,220
was um

1228
00:50:42,829 --> 00:50:40,560
it was true true doubt you know because

1229
00:50:45,290 --> 00:50:42,839
a lot of us we always talk about

1230
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:45,300
um uh spirits and Spirit guides and all

1231
00:50:48,170 --> 00:50:46,319
these different things that have been

1232
00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:48,180
covered by many different people not

1233
00:50:52,609 --> 00:50:50,760
necessarily just on this channel and a

1234
00:50:54,890 --> 00:50:52,619
lot of us always go okay that's cool and

1235
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:54,900
then we we just kind of keep living our

1236
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:57,359
lives without really taking that taking

1237
00:51:02,270 --> 00:51:00,720
that seriously right and dousing

1238
00:51:04,190 --> 00:51:02,280
especially when you have that kind of

1239
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:04,200
interaction it's more of a physical

1240
00:51:07,309 --> 00:51:06,240
thing that you can see that you there's

1241
00:51:09,710 --> 00:51:07,319
something out there that you're

1242
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:09,720
interacting with and so what's

1243
00:51:13,609 --> 00:51:10,800
interesting

1244
00:51:17,390 --> 00:51:13,619
um I took it uh this was

1245
00:51:19,609 --> 00:51:17,400
not that long after after the um uh the

1246
00:51:21,829 --> 00:51:19,619
the meetings and and when I kind of

1247
00:51:25,069 --> 00:51:21,839
became aware of dowsing I kind of

1248
00:51:27,049 --> 00:51:25,079
started like a similar thing but

1249
00:51:30,290 --> 00:51:27,059
um I used this is gonna sound weird I

1250
00:51:32,329 --> 00:51:30,300
kind of used my face so what I'm what

1251
00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:32,339
I'm gonna say about that is um so

1252
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:34,260
basically if I'm about to do something

1253
00:51:38,809 --> 00:51:36,960
I'm not you know fully aware of like

1254
00:51:40,670 --> 00:51:38,819
maybe should I do it should I not and

1255
00:51:43,609 --> 00:51:40,680
all these other things and I trust that

1256
00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:43,619
we have spare guides around us right I

1257
00:51:47,450 --> 00:51:45,240
keep you know talking to people that say

1258
00:51:49,490 --> 00:51:47,460
they are having had the experiences that

1259
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:49,500
I have and knowing that that's the case

1260
00:51:54,829 --> 00:51:51,839
you know it's like why haven't I kind of

1261
00:51:56,569 --> 00:51:54,839
engaged in a conversation in a way not

1262
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:56,579
like talking to yourself you know to

1263
00:52:00,410 --> 00:51:57,839
where everyone else kind of looks at you

1264
00:52:02,569 --> 00:52:00,420
like you're crazy but um going back to

1265
00:52:03,530 --> 00:52:02,579
what I was saying I would just for

1266
00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:03,540
example

1267
00:52:07,010 --> 00:52:05,400
um a lot of times when I noticed that

1268
00:52:10,250 --> 00:52:07,020
something was around me

1269
00:52:13,069 --> 00:52:10,260
um I would just feel like a a very

1270
00:52:15,710 --> 00:52:13,079
strong tingle on the surface of my skin

1271
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:15,720
it almost almost feel like a like little

1272
00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:18,720
pricks of needles you know and um

1273
00:52:22,910 --> 00:52:20,760
basically then every time then I would

1274
00:52:25,069 --> 00:52:22,920
about to do something and I would like

1275
00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:25,079
to have an interaction and get get an

1276
00:52:28,430 --> 00:52:27,240
answer I would just just kind of in my

1277
00:52:30,410 --> 00:52:28,440
head say

1278
00:52:31,970 --> 00:52:30,420
um should I be doing this right now you

1279
00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:31,980
know should I you know whatever but it

1280
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:35,160
would be like a to come down to a yes or

1281
00:52:39,710 --> 00:52:37,920
no type answer and then I would say you

1282
00:52:41,690 --> 00:52:39,720
know basically just

1283
00:52:44,210 --> 00:52:41,700
um like basically tickle the right my

1284
00:52:46,609 --> 00:52:44,220
right cheek and then or no for tickle of

1285
00:52:48,829 --> 00:52:46,619
my left cheek and then basically soon

1286
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:48,839
after maybe about five seconds I would

1287
00:52:52,370 --> 00:52:50,880
just feel like an intense you know

1288
00:52:55,190 --> 00:52:52,380
intense like

1289
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:55,200
like something is just kind of Taken

1290
00:52:59,450 --> 00:52:57,599
like an electrical brush over my face it

1291
00:53:01,130 --> 00:52:59,460
will be one side or the other and I

1292
00:53:02,809 --> 00:53:01,140
would just be like okay and I would just

1293
00:53:04,910 --> 00:53:02,819
move on but I think it's important to

1294
00:53:07,130 --> 00:53:04,920
understand is that we're here to live

1295
00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:07,140
our own lives and make the decisions and

1296
00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:09,480
just basically whatever decisions ends

1297
00:53:13,849 --> 00:53:11,640
up being to just still stick with it you

1298
00:53:15,049 --> 00:53:13,859
know because it's no life either if you

1299
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:15,059
literally I mean I've literally known

1300
00:53:19,849 --> 00:53:17,160
people it's like should I eat this salad

1301
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:19,859
yes or no and they try to do a pendulum

1302
00:53:23,630 --> 00:53:22,079
you know or should I do this and they're

1303
00:53:25,250 --> 00:53:23,640
like everything everything they do is

1304
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:25,260
just bending like should I go left on

1305
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:26,640
the highway I'm like are you kidding me

1306
00:53:31,490 --> 00:53:28,859
now you know it was just taking it too

1307
00:53:34,190 --> 00:53:31,500
far you know but important things for me

1308
00:53:36,770 --> 00:53:34,200
you know we're quite literally like the

1309
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:36,780
big things like you know buying buying a

1310
00:53:40,010 --> 00:53:38,880
house and the way I even found out

1311
00:53:42,890 --> 00:53:40,020
um

1312
00:53:45,170 --> 00:53:42,900
uh Robertsville house before I was

1313
00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:45,180
looking I must have looked at least six

1314
00:53:50,569 --> 00:53:48,180
seven different houses and you know same

1315
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:50,579
thing with the with coins right it's

1316
00:53:57,470 --> 00:53:54,480
also a way to to you know heads for yes

1317
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:57,480
tails for no and that's why a lot of

1318
00:54:01,490 --> 00:53:59,520
times when we want want to help decide

1319
00:54:03,650 --> 00:54:01,500
and my wife and I would do it all the

1320
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:03,660
time because it's been always my habit

1321
00:54:07,849 --> 00:54:05,520
but when you know where should we go and

1322
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:07,859
we can't decide so we say Okay heads for

1323
00:54:11,150 --> 00:54:09,119
this restaurant tales for that

1324
00:54:13,849 --> 00:54:11,160
restaurant but anyway Robertsville house

1325
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:13,859
was the same thing I found a house and

1326
00:54:18,530 --> 00:54:15,359
it was pretty good I was already getting

1327
00:54:20,270 --> 00:54:18,540
tired of looking and I was just I was

1328
00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:20,280
kind of debating like I was about to

1329
00:54:22,970 --> 00:54:21,660
just put an offer on the house and just

1330
00:54:26,030 --> 00:54:22,980
kind of stick with this it's like what's

1331
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,040
the point of keep going you know and um

1332
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:28,319
so anyway so I just started for a second

1333
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:31,680
I said should I should I go look at that

1334
00:54:35,930 --> 00:54:33,599
next house would it be beneficial to me

1335
00:54:39,170 --> 00:54:35,940
to look at the next house uh hats you

1336
00:54:41,329 --> 00:54:39,180
know um yes heads for yes tails for no

1337
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:41,339
and I flipped the coin and sure enough

1338
00:54:45,470 --> 00:54:42,960
it fell on yes I was like all right then

1339
00:54:47,329 --> 00:54:45,480
I will do one more and that's it and

1340
00:54:49,370 --> 00:54:47,339
sure enough as I'm approaching the

1341
00:54:52,790 --> 00:54:49,380
property I was like this is it I know

1342
00:54:54,589 --> 00:54:52,800
for a fact this is it you know and so

1343
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,599
that was a decision because I was

1344
00:54:57,710 --> 00:54:56,400
already pretty heavily set about just

1345
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:57,720
going with that house because I was just

1346
00:55:00,589 --> 00:54:59,040
tired you know it's like how many more

1347
00:55:02,809 --> 00:55:00,599
are we going to be looking it was

1348
00:55:05,809 --> 00:55:02,819
dragging on for weeks too uh going

1349
00:55:08,089 --> 00:55:05,819
actually close close to to a month and

1350
00:55:10,010 --> 00:55:08,099
so those kind of things is what I'm

1351
00:55:12,410 --> 00:55:10,020
talking about not not quite literally

1352
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:12,420
every step of the way to you know please

1353
00:55:16,250 --> 00:55:14,880
tell me what to do type thing

1354
00:55:19,790 --> 00:55:16,260
mm-hmm

1355
00:55:22,609 --> 00:55:19,800
yes yeah yeah I I know what you mean

1356
00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:22,619
I've seen the same thing and

1357
00:55:30,349 --> 00:55:26,700
um I do I do rely on guidance

1358
00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:30,359
and I get I I get it's to me it's an

1359
00:55:35,809 --> 00:55:32,819
impression I feel an overall impression

1360
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,819
yeah I know when I'm doing something I'm

1361
00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:37,440
going in the wrong direction and I know

1362
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:40,140
when I'm going in the right direction

1363
00:55:45,650 --> 00:55:42,480
um but I do uh like you were saying I do

1364
00:55:48,530 --> 00:55:45,660
douse I think I douse more for right now

1365
00:55:51,230 --> 00:55:48,540
I've been dousing more for healing

1366
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:51,240
um for giving people the help aid and

1367
00:55:56,030 --> 00:55:54,240
assistance that they need

1368
00:55:57,230 --> 00:55:56,040
um that's why I've been I guess I've

1369
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:57,240
been doing that for the past three years

1370
00:56:01,130 --> 00:56:00,000
since this this quote epidemic thing has

1371
00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:01,140
come about

1372
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:03,300
and um

1373
00:56:07,569 --> 00:56:04,559
but

1374
00:56:11,930 --> 00:56:07,579
um overall I could say that I feel

1375
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:11,940
uh more confident in relying on the

1376
00:56:18,530 --> 00:56:15,359
inner the Divinity Within to guide me

1377
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:18,540
and what you just expressed uh Adnan I

1378
00:56:23,690 --> 00:56:20,880
experienced almost the same thing I mean

1379
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:23,700
right you you gotta it's like what seek

1380
00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:26,160
and you will find it doesn't say sit on

1381
00:56:31,490 --> 00:56:28,020
your couch and pray and it'll it'll flop

1382
00:56:34,670 --> 00:56:31,500
in your lap yeah so so

1383
00:56:35,809 --> 00:56:34,680
um I I get it my wife and I did the same

1384
00:56:38,089 --> 00:56:35,819
thing with the house we're living in

1385
00:56:38,890 --> 00:56:38,099
right now we looked at about a hundred

1386
00:56:43,370 --> 00:56:38,900
houses

1387
00:56:45,049 --> 00:56:43,380
oh wow yeah yeah because we had uh We've

1388
00:56:47,329 --> 00:56:45,059
set out we well we wrote down exactly

1389
00:56:51,290 --> 00:56:47,339
what we wanted how we wanted to have it

1390
00:56:53,089 --> 00:56:51,300
financed the whole thing so uh when I

1391
00:56:56,690 --> 00:56:53,099
saw it I knew right there this is it

1392
00:56:59,930 --> 00:56:56,700
this is the house and within about less

1393
00:57:01,790 --> 00:56:59,940
than a week we ended up getting it so uh

1394
00:57:04,730 --> 00:57:01,800
but when you're when you're in that

1395
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,740
Groove when you're in that Harmony it

1396
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,480
just it's amazing how things will just

1397
00:57:10,849 --> 00:57:08,400
fall into place they'll start coming

1398
00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:10,859
together for you and

1399
00:57:15,290 --> 00:57:13,200
um one of the things I did while

1400
00:57:18,290 --> 00:57:15,300
um we were looking for the house I told

1401
00:57:19,849 --> 00:57:18,300
her you know I I well my wife too but I

1402
00:57:22,730 --> 00:57:19,859
was doing some dowsing and I said look

1403
00:57:26,569 --> 00:57:22,740
divine you know if this isn't the house

1404
00:57:29,089 --> 00:57:26,579
for us then then make it very succinct

1405
00:57:31,609 --> 00:57:29,099
to stop us from getting it do not let

1406
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,619
this deal go through do not block it do

1407
00:57:36,349 --> 00:57:33,839
whatever you have to but do not let this

1408
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,359
deal go through and it was like it was

1409
00:57:40,130 --> 00:57:38,160
just like putting grease on a slide man

1410
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,140
it just kept we just kept moving forward

1411
00:57:44,990 --> 00:57:42,240
faster and faster with the deal

1412
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,000
and it wasn't and it and it was truly

1413
00:57:49,370 --> 00:57:47,280
from the heart I truly meant it if I

1414
00:57:51,710 --> 00:57:49,380
mean as much as we wanted this house we

1415
00:57:54,650 --> 00:57:51,720
thought it was perfect but if it was not

1416
00:57:56,930 --> 00:57:54,660
what the Divine wanted us to be boom we

1417
00:58:00,109 --> 00:57:56,940
we were willing to move on after looking

1418
00:58:01,069 --> 00:58:00,119
at a hundred houses oh gosh and it

1419
00:58:02,569 --> 00:58:01,079
turned out

1420
00:58:04,309 --> 00:58:02,579
so

1421
00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:04,319
um there's one other thing I wanted to

1422
00:58:07,790 --> 00:58:05,579
mention

1423
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:07,800
um about dowsing

1424
00:58:12,109 --> 00:58:10,319
and I learned this from I think it was

1425
00:58:14,089 --> 00:58:12,119
Walt Woods

1426
00:58:15,410 --> 00:58:14,099
um there's also a guy named Raymond

1427
00:58:17,150 --> 00:58:15,420
Grace

1428
00:58:19,069 --> 00:58:17,160
and there's also

1429
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:19,079
um Ellie Drew these are three people

1430
00:58:26,089 --> 00:58:23,520
that really gave me a good guidance

1431
00:58:29,329 --> 00:58:26,099
um in connecting with that Divinity

1432
00:58:33,049 --> 00:58:29,339
within and this was when we moved into

1433
00:58:34,250 --> 00:58:33,059
this house I set up and put a filter on

1434
00:58:38,690 --> 00:58:34,260
the house

1435
00:58:40,370 --> 00:58:38,700
that any food beverage or any substance

1436
00:58:41,630 --> 00:58:40,380
that would come in contact with our

1437
00:58:44,270 --> 00:58:41,640
physical body

1438
00:58:46,370 --> 00:58:44,280
that it would be purified and that it

1439
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:46,380
would be blessed and that it would

1440
00:58:51,710 --> 00:58:49,680
nourish our bodies and it would be uh uh

1441
00:58:54,589 --> 00:58:51,720
like a like healing to us

1442
00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:54,599
and that this should stay in effect

1443
00:58:59,630 --> 00:58:57,359
for as long as his house would exist

1444
00:59:02,450 --> 00:58:59,640
and it's amazing

1445
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,460
um we uh we get people to come over here

1446
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:04,559
and they go wow Michael it just feels

1447
00:59:08,569 --> 00:59:06,240
really great over here you know it's

1448
00:59:11,930 --> 00:59:08,579
like there's like a good energy about us

1449
00:59:14,210 --> 00:59:11,940
and and I and I that's what I I put I

1450
00:59:16,370 --> 00:59:14,220
give the credit to is what the Divine is

1451
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:16,380
doing it's blessing the environment it's

1452
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:19,200
but the key was I was working with my

1453
00:59:23,870 --> 00:59:21,359
friend Faith for a while on this and and

1454
00:59:25,309 --> 00:59:23,880
we were always doing the blessing of the

1455
00:59:27,410 --> 00:59:25,319
food and the blessing of the home and

1456
00:59:30,170 --> 00:59:27,420
all this but we weren't getting the kind

1457
00:59:32,030 --> 00:59:30,180
of results we wanted and we both came up

1458
00:59:35,150 --> 00:59:32,040
with this about the same time it's like

1459
00:59:38,270 --> 00:59:35,160
you know we left the step out which was

1460
00:59:41,150 --> 00:59:38,280
you must have it purified first

1461
00:59:43,130 --> 00:59:41,160
purify whatever the substance is and

1462
00:59:47,630 --> 00:59:43,140
then have it blessed because it takes

1463
00:59:50,809 --> 00:59:47,640
out all the noxics Noxxic energies or

1464
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:50,819
anoxic substance that's in it removes it

1465
00:59:56,930 --> 00:59:53,760
or neutralizes it and then enhances the

1466
00:59:58,430 --> 00:59:56,940
beneficial energies in there and

1467
00:59:59,630 --> 00:59:58,440
um I've experienced that same thing with

1468
01:00:02,750 --> 00:59:59,640
your automobile

1469
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:02,760
your bank account your job the people at

1470
01:00:06,849 --> 01:00:05,040
your job you can do this same thing

1471
01:00:09,950 --> 01:00:06,859
wherever you are

1472
01:00:13,849 --> 01:00:09,960
you can actually one of the things that

1473
01:00:16,849 --> 01:00:13,859
I have done is I've put up a 500 foot

1474
01:00:20,030 --> 01:00:16,859
spherical energy field around the house

1475
01:00:22,430 --> 01:00:20,040
around ourselves and around our property

1476
01:00:25,730 --> 01:00:22,440
so wherever we go everything and

1477
01:00:28,849 --> 01:00:25,740
everyone within that sphere is safe

1478
01:00:30,289 --> 01:00:28,859
and it's amazing how you just we go out

1479
01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:30,299
in public and people are just so

1480
01:00:35,690 --> 01:00:32,880
friendly and nice and you know you just

1481
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:35,700
it's just a nice it's just a nice energy

1482
01:00:40,490 --> 01:00:37,920
that that we get to bring with us

1483
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:40,500
wherever we go and when I doubt I was

1484
01:00:45,650 --> 01:00:43,200
dousing this as I was requesting this to

1485
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:45,660
be done and it was just giving me this

1486
01:00:48,890 --> 01:00:47,760
like yeah you know this high this high

1487
01:00:51,289 --> 01:00:48,900
five on this

1488
01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:51,299
so anybody can do this you don't have to

1489
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:53,280
be a dowser just ask the Divine to do

1490
01:00:58,190 --> 01:00:55,440
this and that it should be continually

1491
01:01:01,069 --> 01:00:58,200
in effect for long as it's necessary and

1492
01:01:03,289 --> 01:01:01,079
appropriate to do so

1493
01:01:06,049 --> 01:01:03,299
great thank you for for explaining that

1494
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:06,059
well Michael um can I ask you one more

1495
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,880
question from silky B and I think um we

1496
01:01:13,130 --> 01:01:10,799
got a pretty good covered um because

1497
01:01:15,230 --> 01:01:13,140
there's James uh that also wanted to

1498
01:01:16,549 --> 01:01:15,240
come through and um you know of course

1499
01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:16,559
if you have anything else to share

1500
01:01:19,970 --> 01:01:18,119
please let me know

1501
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:19,980
um but if it's okay with you I will also

1502
01:01:23,329 --> 01:01:22,079
like to extend the float to James too is

1503
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:23,339
that okay

1504
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:26,400
yeah that's great all right so silky B

1505
01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:29,040
is asking what is the evil trade-off for

1506
01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:32,880
alien technology reptilians the evil

1507
01:01:35,450 --> 01:01:33,839
trade-off

1508
01:01:37,549 --> 01:01:35,460
yeah

1509
01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:37,559
oh well

1510
01:01:41,450 --> 01:01:39,780
um you know there it's like anything in

1511
01:01:43,549 --> 01:01:41,460
the universe there's good there's good

1512
01:01:45,589 --> 01:01:43,559
and evil everywhere

1513
01:01:48,650 --> 01:01:45,599
um you know there's good there's good

1514
01:01:51,410 --> 01:01:48,660
reptilians and there's evil reptilians

1515
01:01:53,809 --> 01:01:51,420
um it's just a matter right now from

1516
01:01:56,270 --> 01:01:53,819
what my dowsing is we're up to our

1517
01:02:00,829 --> 01:01:56,280
eyebrows here on Earth in the evil ones

1518
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:00,839
but there are good beings who are

1519
01:02:04,849 --> 01:02:03,119
um I guess you would say the best way to

1520
01:02:08,270 --> 01:02:04,859
describe it is is that they are putting

1521
01:02:12,109 --> 01:02:08,280
out good intentions our prayers towards

1522
01:02:14,450 --> 01:02:12,119
us as as mankind to lift ourselves out

1523
01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:14,460
of this uh form of slavery that we've

1524
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:16,140
all been put in

1525
01:02:21,530 --> 01:02:18,000
um and

1526
01:02:24,109 --> 01:02:21,540
um I would say just be aware that that

1527
01:02:26,930 --> 01:02:24,119
the we'll call him the evil reptilians

1528
01:02:28,970 --> 01:02:26,940
are the evil aliens are there but just

1529
01:02:30,410 --> 01:02:28,980
be aware that it's there it's like

1530
01:02:32,750 --> 01:02:30,420
walking through the woods and knowing

1531
01:02:34,910 --> 01:02:32,760
that maybe there's wolves or bears in

1532
01:02:37,490 --> 01:02:34,920
the world in the woods but you're not

1533
01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:37,500
going to shut your life down because

1534
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:39,240
they're there you're going to be you're

1535
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:41,280
going to act cautiously

1536
01:02:47,870 --> 01:02:44,640
but when you are confronted stand on

1537
01:02:51,950 --> 01:02:50,390
okay well Michael thank you very much

1538
01:02:53,690 --> 01:02:51,960
again you know I really really

1539
01:02:57,049 --> 01:02:53,700
appreciate it always love having you on

1540
01:02:59,630 --> 01:02:57,059
I'm sorry it took a year for uh to for

1541
01:03:02,089 --> 01:02:59,640
you come back but um yeah you know just

1542
01:03:04,010 --> 01:03:02,099
like it's a perfect example the same way

1543
01:03:06,289 --> 01:03:04,020
that you and I have stories and everyone

1544
01:03:08,930 --> 01:03:06,299
else out there you know people just need

1545
01:03:11,210 --> 01:03:08,940
to share them more and make that to be

1546
01:03:13,730 --> 01:03:11,220
that new normal as they call it you know

1547
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:13,740
to just do you realize that this weird

1548
01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:16,079
thing going on in life is uh you know

1549
01:03:19,309 --> 01:03:18,660
happening for everybody and and why kind

1550
01:03:21,109 --> 01:03:19,319
of

1551
01:03:22,490 --> 01:03:21,119
you hide it when you can share it

1552
01:03:24,109 --> 01:03:22,500
because you never know who else had

1553
01:03:25,630 --> 01:03:24,119
experiences like you

1554
01:03:28,430 --> 01:03:25,640
yeah

1555
01:03:32,089 --> 01:03:28,440
well you know it's it's been a it's been

1556
01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:32,099
a a real uh roller coaster ride since

1557
01:03:35,690 --> 01:03:34,079
that night at the drive-in because

1558
01:03:38,450 --> 01:03:35,700
that's when things really began to

1559
01:03:41,210 --> 01:03:38,460
change in my life and uh and it still is

1560
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:41,220
and and I'm thankful for it

1561
01:03:46,010 --> 01:03:43,680
um a friend of mine he told me I had

1562
01:03:48,349 --> 01:03:46,020
explained this to him that when I saw at

1563
01:03:50,990 --> 01:03:48,359
the drive-in and he said more than

1564
01:03:53,450 --> 01:03:51,000
likely what that what these ships were

1565
01:03:55,309 --> 01:03:53,460
doing in the sky they were using a

1566
01:03:57,530 --> 01:03:55,319
three-dimensional alphabet

1567
01:03:59,870 --> 01:03:57,540
and they were communicating to your

1568
01:04:02,450 --> 01:03:59,880
subconscious and it triggered you and

1569
01:04:05,030 --> 01:04:02,460
probably a lot of other people and when

1570
01:04:07,069 --> 01:04:05,040
he said that it was like wow it was just

1571
01:04:09,470 --> 01:04:07,079
something inside of me said yep Gene was

1572
01:04:11,210 --> 01:04:09,480
right on that you know it's a it was

1573
01:04:13,490 --> 01:04:11,220
they were using a three-dimensional

1574
01:04:17,089 --> 01:04:13,500
alphabet in the sky and they were

1575
01:04:19,609 --> 01:04:17,099
triggering us to wake up right and

1576
01:04:22,490 --> 01:04:19,619
and that's that's the good guys

1577
01:04:27,289 --> 01:04:22,500
right

1578
01:04:29,390 --> 01:04:27,299
do you have any uh final words closing

1579
01:04:32,690 --> 01:04:29,400
words you'd like to leave us with

1580
01:04:35,510 --> 01:04:32,700
well if if anybody's interested in in

1581
01:04:37,309 --> 01:04:35,520
learning more about dowsing I was

1582
01:04:41,030 --> 01:04:37,319
telling you about well we just do a

1583
01:04:43,789 --> 01:04:41,040
search for Walt Woods and his uh book

1584
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:43,799
called A letter to Robin

1585
01:04:49,089 --> 01:04:45,900
um another one is Raymond Grace which is

1586
01:04:54,349 --> 01:04:52,130
g-r-a-c-e.com Raymond Grace Raymond's

1587
01:04:56,750 --> 01:04:54,359
really he's a he's a really interesting

1588
01:04:58,190 --> 01:04:56,760
character I really like Raymond

1589
01:05:01,069 --> 01:04:58,200
um he's got some really good stories

1590
01:05:04,250 --> 01:05:01,079
about exercising

1591
01:05:06,410 --> 01:05:04,260
um uh um uh entities out of homes and

1592
01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:06,420
stuff that are uh I guess you would call

1593
01:05:10,849 --> 01:05:07,680
them hauntings

1594
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:10,859
and then Ellie Drew Ellie Drew is she

1595
01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:13,440
does douse but her thing is about

1596
01:05:19,130 --> 01:05:15,119
clearing out

1597
01:05:21,530 --> 01:05:19,140
um this um uh these um connections that

1598
01:05:23,930 --> 01:05:21,540
we have with other people through

1599
01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:23,940
um maybe past life or this life where

1600
01:05:28,069 --> 01:05:25,920
you've had experiences with somebody

1601
01:05:31,069 --> 01:05:28,079
that was maybe traumatic and things like

1602
01:05:33,589 --> 01:05:31,079
that and releasing these uh these

1603
01:05:35,089 --> 01:05:33,599
connections so at freesia so those were

1604
01:05:37,609 --> 01:05:35,099
those were three people that I've

1605
01:05:40,430 --> 01:05:37,619
learned a lot from and

1606
01:05:42,710 --> 01:05:40,440
um and it's helped me a great deal and I

1607
01:05:45,410 --> 01:05:42,720
hope you guys check it out

1608
01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:45,420
all right well Michael great great to

1609
01:05:49,370 --> 01:05:47,280
talk to you again thank you you know and

1610
01:05:51,049 --> 01:05:49,380
and we'll chat you uh have your number

1611
01:05:53,410 --> 01:05:51,059
and I gotta call you one of these days

1612
01:05:56,030 --> 01:05:53,420
I'm sorry I haven't done it this much

1613
01:06:00,130 --> 01:05:56,040
yeah well I look forward to it and

1614
01:06:04,370 --> 01:06:02,270
anytime anytime please tell everyone

1615
01:06:07,069 --> 01:06:04,380
that knows me that I said hi

1616
01:06:09,530 --> 01:06:07,079
okay will do okay all right you take

1617
01:06:14,990 --> 01:06:12,289
all right so that was Michael thank you

1618
01:06:17,690 --> 01:06:15,000
Michael very much uh James uh I would

1619
01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:17,700
like to get to you uh next if you could

1620
01:06:21,170 --> 01:06:19,680
um I'm gonna meet you in a second but I

1621
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:21,180
just want to get to

1622
01:06:25,970 --> 01:06:23,280
um a question by Michelle

1623
01:06:28,130 --> 01:06:25,980
uh she just said uh hi ednan I have a

1624
01:06:30,650 --> 01:06:28,140
question for you if you get uh get the

1625
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:30,660
time I had a main I had a man say hello

1626
01:06:35,390 --> 01:06:32,400
to me while

1627
01:06:37,849 --> 01:06:35,400
while I was asleep a few days ago he had

1628
01:06:41,210 --> 01:06:37,859
a deep deep voice it had happened once

1629
01:06:43,250 --> 01:06:41,220
before a year or so ago and then uh she

1630
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:43,260
said I applied to him

1631
01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:44,400
um

1632
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:46,799
I replied to him I guess they're saying

1633
01:06:52,010 --> 01:06:49,680
in my head but he didn't say anymore

1634
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:52,020
should I have spoken out loud thank you

1635
01:06:54,529 --> 01:06:53,280
well

1636
01:06:55,190 --> 01:06:54,539
Michelle

1637
01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:55,200
um

1638
01:06:59,329 --> 01:06:56,880
when it comes to these kind of things

1639
01:07:02,690 --> 01:06:59,339
I've had these extra auditory

1640
01:07:04,670 --> 01:07:02,700
experiences several times myself and the

1641
01:07:05,809 --> 01:07:04,680
key anytime something like that happens

1642
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:05,819
is to

1643
01:07:11,150 --> 01:07:08,160
you know always just don't be afraid

1644
01:07:13,609 --> 01:07:11,160
first of all right because

1645
01:07:15,529 --> 01:07:13,619
whatever happens you know it's like you

1646
01:07:17,630 --> 01:07:15,539
have to be in that neutral State of Mind

1647
01:07:19,250 --> 01:07:17,640
to truly understand something because if

1648
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,260
you immediately

1649
01:07:23,870 --> 01:07:22,319
um jump to the this is a threat this is

1650
01:07:27,049 --> 01:07:23,880
something I need to fear I need to shut

1651
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:27,059
this out uh then of course it will uh be

1652
01:07:31,970 --> 01:07:28,799
something that you are kind of filtering

1653
01:07:34,609 --> 01:07:31,980
through that fearful lens and so

1654
01:07:36,770 --> 01:07:34,619
um the point is you know yeah if you

1655
01:07:38,690 --> 01:07:36,780
also filter it through the nice lens you

1656
01:07:40,190 --> 01:07:38,700
know yada yada then you know what if

1657
01:07:41,750 --> 01:07:40,200
what if it was something really that

1658
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:41,760
that you need to be paying attention to

1659
01:07:47,809 --> 01:07:45,119
or be aware of or or whatnot what I'm

1660
01:07:50,089 --> 01:07:47,819
trying to say generally is that 99 of

1661
01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:50,099
the time there's misunderstandings about

1662
01:07:56,450 --> 01:07:52,799
why a communication happened

1663
01:07:58,010 --> 01:07:56,460
um you know by normal standards doctors

1664
01:08:00,349 --> 01:07:58,020
and all of that they're like oh yep

1665
01:08:02,510 --> 01:08:00,359
that's time for you know medication and

1666
01:08:04,730 --> 01:08:02,520
you know you need to see a doctor you

1667
01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:04,740
know but uh having had experiences that

1668
01:08:08,690 --> 01:08:06,480
I had and many other people that I've

1669
01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:08,700
talked to and and just that I've come

1670
01:08:14,690 --> 01:08:12,000
across in my life it's not an uncommon

1671
01:08:16,490 --> 01:08:14,700
thing what the specific purpose of that

1672
01:08:18,829 --> 01:08:16,500
is it comes down to each individual

1673
01:08:20,870 --> 01:08:18,839
person it's up to you to find that out

1674
01:08:22,610 --> 01:08:20,880
but you only will be able to do that if

1675
01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:22,620
you are not fearful and you keep

1676
01:08:28,430 --> 01:08:25,679
persisting to kind of be open to it to

1677
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:28,440
happen again because before you know it

1678
01:08:31,789 --> 01:08:30,480
more and more explanations or more and

1679
01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:31,799
more things will happen they'll explain

1680
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,799
the point of why that was happening you

1681
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:36,960
know you will understand why as you

1682
01:08:41,809 --> 01:08:39,359
mentioned you only you know you

1683
01:08:43,130 --> 01:08:41,819
responded but nothing was said and no

1684
01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:43,140
you didn't have to say it out loud

1685
01:08:46,610 --> 01:08:45,359
because a lot of times we're talking

1686
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:46,620
about

1687
01:08:51,709 --> 01:08:48,960
um these interdimensional communications

1688
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:51,719
it's not about the auditory anyway you

1689
01:08:55,789 --> 01:08:53,520
know it's more about your Consciousness

1690
01:08:58,010 --> 01:08:55,799
your awareness just basically basically

1691
01:09:01,610 --> 01:08:58,020
touching touching base back with

1692
01:09:03,530 --> 01:09:01,620
whatever just said all to you and also a

1693
01:09:06,169 --> 01:09:03,540
lot of times because of these different

1694
01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:06,179
vibrations where as human beings we're

1695
01:09:10,729 --> 01:09:08,880
on one level there's stiff and different

1696
01:09:12,769 --> 01:09:10,739
weird things that exist on all these

1697
01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:12,779
different levels and dimensions they

1698
01:09:16,130 --> 01:09:14,160
have all their different vibrations

1699
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:16,140
something coming through from these

1700
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:18,480
different things uh can't sound very

1701
01:09:23,630 --> 01:09:21,199
deep because it's almost like a um

1702
01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:23,640
basically if we were using a physical

1703
01:09:28,370 --> 01:09:25,920
example and I've used that I explained

1704
01:09:30,769 --> 01:09:28,380
this a while back on neo4hub too

1705
01:09:32,689 --> 01:09:30,779
um it's basically kind of like you being

1706
01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:32,699
underwater and somebody talking to you

1707
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:34,560
you can kind of make out that they're

1708
01:09:38,450 --> 01:09:36,000
trying to talk to you but it's muffled

1709
01:09:40,729 --> 01:09:38,460
and weird you know not not at all

1710
01:09:43,090 --> 01:09:40,739
clearly clear sounding like it is when

1711
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:43,100
you're above water and a lot of these

1712
01:09:47,749 --> 01:09:46,319
interdimensional things uh happen that

1713
01:09:49,610 --> 01:09:47,759
way to where

1714
01:09:51,229 --> 01:09:49,620
um it may have sounded deeper not

1715
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:51,239
because it's actually a deep voice but

1716
01:09:56,450 --> 01:09:53,520
because just how you translate it what

1717
01:09:58,189 --> 01:09:56,460
was come what was coming through so if

1718
01:09:59,870 --> 01:09:58,199
this truly happened to you in the way

1719
01:10:01,910 --> 01:09:59,880
you said it happened that's the only

1720
01:10:05,050 --> 01:10:01,920
advice I can give give to you now and

1721
01:10:07,729 --> 01:10:05,060
just to be vigilant and basically just

1722
01:10:09,950 --> 01:10:07,739
keep at it to just be open when it

1723
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:09,960
happens and stay open-minded no matter

1724
01:10:15,650 --> 01:10:12,239
how much fear wants to kick in

1725
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,660
okay I'm really sorry James you um

1726
01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:17,280
um you've waited long enough I'm gonna

1727
01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:20,400
bring you in I'm gonna unmute

1728
01:10:25,250 --> 01:10:22,640
um let's see here

1729
01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:25,260
unmute you on my end if you can unmute

1730
01:10:29,209 --> 01:10:26,880
yourself on yours and you should be able

1731
01:10:30,770 --> 01:10:29,219
to speak to me

1732
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:30,780
hello

1733
01:10:34,970 --> 01:10:33,120
hey James how are you

1734
01:10:37,310 --> 01:10:34,980
good man how you doing

1735
01:10:40,250 --> 01:10:37,320
oh I'm doing just fine uh thanks thanks

1736
01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:40,260
for uh signing up and and because I know

1737
01:10:45,370 --> 01:10:42,239
you were still in chat so you installed

1738
01:10:49,370 --> 01:10:45,380
it quick enough to still join tonight

1739
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:49,380
right right no yeah man because I I've

1740
01:10:56,209 --> 01:10:52,800
uh obviously I guess I've subscribed and

1741
01:10:58,970 --> 01:10:56,219
I've seen your videos before but um

1742
01:11:02,090 --> 01:10:58,980
this is the first time I've ever really

1743
01:11:03,950 --> 01:11:02,100
uh Gone on a live chat like this oh well

1744
01:11:06,169 --> 01:11:03,960
thank you um

1745
01:11:08,090 --> 01:11:06,179
no thank you man no it's very

1746
01:11:09,890 --> 01:11:08,100
interesting because um

1747
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:09,900
to be honest for me I've just been going

1748
01:11:15,890 --> 01:11:12,480
through some of the most uh

1749
01:11:18,169 --> 01:11:15,900
well uh I'd say struggling parts of my

1750
01:11:20,030 --> 01:11:18,179
life recently when it comes to a my

1751
01:11:20,990 --> 01:11:20,040
everything to be honest so I was in

1752
01:11:23,330 --> 01:11:21,000
America

1753
01:11:25,550 --> 01:11:23,340
so I'm from England originally born in

1754
01:11:29,149 --> 01:11:25,560
England I love a son from England

1755
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:29,159
doesn't tell from my accent but

1756
01:11:38,030 --> 01:11:29,760
um

1757
01:11:41,570 --> 01:11:38,040
some we had a fishing show pretty much

1758
01:11:44,270 --> 01:11:41,580
we had a fish and chip shop in England

1759
01:11:46,490 --> 01:11:44,280
um my dad done fishing tips all his life

1760
01:11:49,729 --> 01:11:46,500
I'm just saying this is a as sort of

1761
01:11:52,910 --> 01:11:49,739
getting a bit of a basis for who I am so

1762
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:52,920
but then my dad doesn't we he uh had a

1763
01:11:56,510 --> 01:11:55,440
fish and chip shop for 20 years if not a

1764
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:56,520
bit longer

1765
01:12:00,890 --> 01:11:59,040
going on 25 years

1766
01:12:03,050 --> 01:12:00,900
and um

1767
01:12:04,689 --> 01:12:03,060
he wanted to um

1768
01:12:07,370 --> 01:12:04,699
make a change

1769
01:12:10,910 --> 01:12:07,380
and um

1770
01:12:13,010 --> 01:12:10,920
before that in 2009 he so in 2009 he

1771
01:12:15,169 --> 01:12:13,020
bought a house in America so going

1772
01:12:17,810 --> 01:12:15,179
forward he he sold it during the

1773
01:12:20,689 --> 01:12:17,820
pandemic around the pandemic time

1774
01:12:23,630 --> 01:12:20,699
but um so but um

1775
01:12:25,130 --> 01:12:23,640
we ended up moving to Florida so we

1776
01:12:27,410 --> 01:12:25,140
ended up moving to Florida I actually

1777
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:27,420
moved there before my mum and dad did I

1778
01:12:32,810 --> 01:12:30,960
met a beautiful lady called Adriana I

1779
01:12:35,090 --> 01:12:32,820
had two kids

1780
01:12:37,010 --> 01:12:35,100
and um

1781
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:37,020
yeah everything was going good you know

1782
01:12:41,090 --> 01:12:39,360
and then after the pandemic because I

1783
01:12:44,450 --> 01:12:41,100
managed to get to Florida just before

1784
01:12:47,330 --> 01:12:44,460
they shut the airports down and that so

1785
01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:47,340
this was like March 2020.

1786
01:12:50,770 --> 01:12:48,840
because they say when it comes to three

1787
01:12:53,630 --> 01:12:50,780
and I had a feeling you know I mean

1788
01:12:56,930 --> 01:12:53,640
things were it was strings were heating

1789
01:12:58,729 --> 01:12:56,940
up with the whole Corona and I had you

1790
01:13:02,330 --> 01:12:58,739
know I mean I defend I knew I had to get

1791
01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:02,340
over get over there and be with Adriana

1792
01:13:07,610 --> 01:13:04,140
because she was pregnant

1793
01:13:09,649 --> 01:13:07,620
with my first baby Amelia

1794
01:13:11,330 --> 01:13:09,659
and I knew I had to get there and be

1795
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,340
there before

1796
01:13:15,709 --> 01:13:13,440
anything drastic happened that turned

1797
01:13:19,010 --> 01:13:15,719
out you know I mean it did get drastic

1798
01:13:20,209 --> 01:13:19,020
they stopped they stopped flights

1799
01:13:23,570 --> 01:13:20,219
[Music]

1800
01:13:26,209 --> 01:13:23,580
but anyway so we was I've um I was

1801
01:13:28,850 --> 01:13:26,219
living in I've been living in America

1802
01:13:31,370 --> 01:13:28,860
for the last three years

1803
01:13:33,290 --> 01:13:31,380
and my parents are still there my dad

1804
01:13:35,689 --> 01:13:33,300
and my mum and my little brother have

1805
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,699
all got visas they started off for a

1806
01:13:40,010 --> 01:13:37,199
five-year visa and then they've got a

1807
01:13:42,770 --> 01:13:40,020
10-year Visa but I was over 21 so I

1808
01:13:45,470 --> 01:13:42,780
couldn't get I was I I wasn't I could I

1809
01:13:48,169 --> 01:13:45,480
had to I couldn't get a I couldn't get a

1810
01:13:49,490 --> 01:13:48,179
Visa off my through my through my mum

1811
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:49,500
and dad you know because I wasn't I was

1812
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:52,560
I was too old you know after 21 you have

1813
01:13:56,570 --> 01:13:53,520
to uh

1814
01:13:58,010 --> 01:13:56,580
Do Your Own Thing until you can't pretty

1815
01:14:01,310 --> 01:13:58,020
much my little brother got a Visa

1816
01:14:05,630 --> 01:14:01,320
automatically because he was under 18.

1817
01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:05,640
and I am so I was there I was there

1818
01:14:08,810 --> 01:14:06,960
before

1819
01:14:10,430 --> 01:14:08,820
they got there then they come over like

1820
01:14:12,110 --> 01:14:10,440
a year later

1821
01:14:13,910 --> 01:14:12,120
and um

1822
01:14:17,229 --> 01:14:13,920
it was all good I had my first baby

1823
01:14:19,550 --> 01:14:17,239
Amelia my baby girl congratulations

1824
01:14:22,370 --> 01:14:19,560
Adriana ended up getting pregnant again

1825
01:14:31,970 --> 01:14:22,380
and we had Luca

1826
01:14:36,290 --> 01:14:34,610
everything in and when it on on paper

1827
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:36,300
you know I mean it would seem everything

1828
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:47,470
oh are you still there

1829
01:14:47,480 --> 01:14:53,990
James can you hear me

1830
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,350
um you have dropped off if you could um

1831
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:59,280
try getting back to me uh if you're

1832
01:15:07,370 --> 01:15:01,679
unmuted on my end and

1833
01:15:18,410 --> 01:15:09,229
okay I'm gonna I'm gonna keep this open

1834
01:15:22,910 --> 01:15:20,870
nope

1835
01:15:25,610 --> 01:15:22,920
okay yeah no he has dropped off all

1836
01:15:28,430 --> 01:15:25,620
together I don't know if he's gonna um

1837
01:15:30,290 --> 01:15:28,440
log back in So James if you can see me

1838
01:15:32,330 --> 01:15:30,300
or still hear me

1839
01:15:35,510 --> 01:15:32,340
um it's open for you so when you log

1840
01:15:36,590 --> 01:15:35,520
back in please continue your story

1841
01:15:38,810 --> 01:15:36,600
um all right

1842
01:15:41,689 --> 01:15:38,820
uh so let's see

1843
01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:41,699
what we have here Hazel uh welcome good

1844
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:43,440
to see you it's been it's been a long

1845
01:15:46,729 --> 01:15:44,640
time

1846
01:15:48,590 --> 01:15:46,739
um I guess obviously because I haven't

1847
01:15:51,770 --> 01:15:48,600
been online for a long time only been

1848
01:15:54,290 --> 01:15:51,780
back for a few months now but uh welcome

1849
01:15:56,270 --> 01:15:54,300
to everyone else that's um that's here

1850
01:15:59,330 --> 01:15:56,280
in chat today and I hope you all

1851
01:16:01,850 --> 01:15:59,340
enjoying yourselves and and listening

1852
01:16:03,470 --> 01:16:01,860
um okay James is back again let me see

1853
01:16:06,050 --> 01:16:03,480
here

1854
01:16:08,810 --> 01:16:06,060
but me I'm mute him James I'll mute

1855
01:16:10,130 --> 01:16:08,820
yourself on your end and go ahead hello

1856
01:16:12,530 --> 01:16:10,140
yes sorry I don't know what happened

1857
01:16:14,689 --> 01:16:12,540
there yeah me neither I don't know but

1858
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:14,699
I'm glad you're back

1859
01:16:19,070 --> 01:16:17,760
Okay cool so where was I well I did so

1860
01:16:21,050 --> 01:16:19,080
well I don't know where you said second

1861
01:16:22,910 --> 01:16:21,060
no second baby

1862
01:16:25,550 --> 01:16:22,920
that you had your first okay then yeah

1863
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:25,560
so I had we had Luca

1864
01:16:30,669 --> 01:16:28,800
and um so pretty much I was there for

1865
01:16:33,530 --> 01:16:30,679
three years and um

1866
01:16:35,689 --> 01:16:33,540
unfortunately just recently so I got

1867
01:16:37,790 --> 01:16:35,699
pulled over for a DUI when I was in

1868
01:16:39,770 --> 01:16:37,800
Florida

1869
01:16:42,110 --> 01:16:39,780
and um

1870
01:16:45,070 --> 01:16:42,120
so it was a typical situation of I went

1871
01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:45,080
I was I went out so I was oh

1872
01:16:52,010 --> 01:16:48,780
anyways I went out I went out I was um

1873
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:52,020
I was out I went I went out to um I went

1874
01:16:56,149 --> 01:16:54,000
out I went to the liquor store and I was

1875
01:16:57,530 --> 01:16:56,159
also at the gambling I was at the arcade

1876
01:17:00,410 --> 01:16:57,540
next door I wanted a little bit of money

1877
01:17:03,290 --> 01:17:00,420
and I come home but um the reason I went

1878
01:17:04,430 --> 01:17:03,300
out was to get milk like I was saying

1879
01:17:05,630 --> 01:17:04,440
earlier

1880
01:17:07,310 --> 01:17:05,640
hello

1881
01:17:09,530 --> 01:17:07,320
yes I'm here

1882
01:17:12,169 --> 01:17:09,540
okay cool yeah like I was saying earlier

1883
01:17:14,930 --> 01:17:12,179
didn't go up quick enough so pretty much

1884
01:17:17,930 --> 01:17:14,940
um so I was in America for three years

1885
01:17:20,270 --> 01:17:17,940
and um unfortunately I got pulled over

1886
01:17:22,970 --> 01:17:20,280
for a DUI

1887
01:17:27,169 --> 01:17:22,980
because I came back home and I forgot to

1888
01:17:29,390 --> 01:17:27,179
get milk and my my fiance was like

1889
01:17:31,790 --> 01:17:29,400
wow where's the milk I was like oh oh

1890
01:17:33,709 --> 01:17:31,800
I'll go I'll go back out and get it

1891
01:17:34,930 --> 01:17:33,719
and when I went back out I got pulled

1892
01:17:37,790 --> 01:17:34,940
over

1893
01:17:39,470 --> 01:17:37,800
and um I was drunk

1894
01:17:41,870 --> 01:17:39,480
and um

1895
01:17:44,689 --> 01:17:41,880
yeah so that I I got I got I got

1896
01:17:47,990 --> 01:17:44,699
arrested for a DUI I paid my bail but um

1897
01:17:50,090 --> 01:17:48,000
I overstayed I overstayed and I didn't

1898
01:17:51,709 --> 01:17:50,100
get married quick enough well I wanted

1899
01:17:53,390 --> 01:17:51,719
to get married but even if I was married

1900
01:17:56,330 --> 01:17:53,400
I don't know if that would have affected

1901
01:17:58,850 --> 01:17:56,340
my situation as well it may have helped

1902
01:18:01,430 --> 01:17:58,860
but either way I think um even if I had

1903
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:01,440
a green card

1904
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:04,320
as they still may have um pretty much

1905
01:18:07,430 --> 01:18:05,760
ended up getting kicked out of the

1906
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:07,440
country unfortunately I ended up getting

1907
01:18:11,930 --> 01:18:08,880
deported

1908
01:18:17,209 --> 01:18:13,790
and um

1909
01:18:19,729 --> 01:18:17,219
my and I was in a

1910
01:18:23,090 --> 01:18:19,739
um I was in it I was in Broward

1911
01:18:25,490 --> 01:18:23,100
Transitional center in Miami for almost

1912
01:18:29,689 --> 01:18:25,500
two months

1913
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:29,699
and um you know what I mean it made me

1914
01:18:33,770 --> 01:18:32,159
it made me about pretty much it was it's

1915
01:18:35,209 --> 01:18:33,780
like I said it's the it's been the one

1916
01:18:37,310 --> 01:18:35,219
that it was one of the toughest times of

1917
01:18:39,709 --> 01:18:37,320
my life

1918
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:39,719
I am

1919
01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:45,840
person you know I mean I'm I you know I

1920
01:18:54,110 --> 01:18:49,860
just um unfortunately I I do like I I

1921
01:18:54,729 --> 01:18:54,120
do like to drink I do like and I do

1922
01:18:58,250 --> 01:18:54,739
I do

1923
01:19:01,669 --> 01:18:58,260
and and I um

1924
01:19:03,530 --> 01:19:01,679
and um I I just wish I could have got my

1925
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:03,540
together soon I wish I could have

1926
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:05,280
sorted it out sooner sorry I'm not know

1927
01:19:10,910 --> 01:19:06,960
if I'm if I'm allowed to swear or not

1928
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:10,920
I'm trying no you can't yeah real quick

1929
01:19:15,410 --> 01:19:12,960
um yeah I'm really sorry for all the the

1930
01:19:17,209 --> 01:19:15,420
troubles and the difficulties you've had

1931
01:19:20,050 --> 01:19:17,219
um was there a story that you wanted to

1932
01:19:22,910 --> 01:19:20,060
share that's Supernatural in nature

1933
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:22,920
yes so I've been from many super I've

1934
01:19:30,890 --> 01:19:26,640
had many Supernaturals experiences so

1935
01:19:34,970 --> 01:19:30,900
this is what I'm saying so even before

1936
01:19:37,130 --> 01:19:34,980
so um so when I first met Adriana I

1937
01:19:40,010 --> 01:19:37,140
prayed I prayed to God when I was there

1938
01:19:42,350 --> 01:19:40,020
I prayed this was this was going back a

1939
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:42,360
few years back before I met uh

1940
01:19:49,970 --> 01:19:46,320
I was I was going through um pretty much

1941
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:49,980
I prayed to God that I'd meet someone I

1942
01:19:55,070 --> 01:19:52,320
prayed deep I prayed as hard as I could

1943
01:19:57,950 --> 01:19:55,080
and I met Adriana that night that the

1944
01:20:00,830 --> 01:19:57,960
night I prayed I met her

1945
01:20:03,110 --> 01:20:00,840
and we had a beautiful family

1946
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:03,120
and um what I'm trying to say is like

1947
01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:06,719
like mate was saying on the last call

1948
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:09,120
I guess this and I and I heard I

1949
01:20:13,790 --> 01:20:11,280
listened to a lot Coast to Coast AM a

1950
01:20:17,149 --> 01:20:13,800
lot of stuff but um we're all supposed

1951
01:20:18,410 --> 01:20:17,159
to experience all sorts of situations in

1952
01:20:20,689 --> 01:20:18,420
life

1953
01:20:24,410 --> 01:20:20,699
whether they're negative or positive

1954
01:20:28,250 --> 01:20:24,420
you know and I guess um

1955
01:20:31,250 --> 01:20:28,260
I guess this the when you when it comes

1956
01:20:34,669 --> 01:20:31,260
down to um when it comes down to um

1957
01:20:36,410 --> 01:20:34,679
going through trauma or difficult

1958
01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:36,420
situations

1959
01:20:41,870 --> 01:20:40,320
out that you realize and you and you

1960
01:20:45,470 --> 01:20:41,880
learn you know I mean at that you learn

1961
01:20:48,130 --> 01:20:45,480
to be more compassionate and um

1962
01:20:50,750 --> 01:20:48,140
you gain from that as well you know

1963
01:20:53,209 --> 01:20:50,760
great gain from the situation and I'm

1964
01:20:57,050 --> 01:20:53,219
still I'm still I'm obviously I me I

1965
01:20:58,850 --> 01:20:57,060
mean I'm I'm Gonna Fly my my my future

1966
01:21:00,649 --> 01:20:58,860
my wife to be and my kids over to

1967
01:21:03,770 --> 01:21:00,659
England and we're going to be together

1968
01:21:06,649 --> 01:21:03,780
you know but through situations

1969
01:21:09,169 --> 01:21:06,659
you um you become you know what I mean

1970
01:21:10,850 --> 01:21:09,179
you become stronger you become you learn

1971
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:10,860
you learn you spoke we're supposed to

1972
01:21:13,610 --> 01:21:12,480
learn these experiences like we're

1973
01:21:16,010 --> 01:21:13,620
supposed to

1974
01:21:18,229 --> 01:21:16,020
go through things to learn you know what

1975
01:21:20,270 --> 01:21:18,239
I'm saying because that's what maybe

1976
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:20,280
what we decide that's why we come here

1977
01:21:25,490 --> 01:21:21,600
you know to

1978
01:21:27,890 --> 01:21:25,500
to experience these these things and to

1979
01:21:30,830 --> 01:21:27,900
um go through hardship

1980
01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:30,840
because you know it's like the typical

1981
01:21:33,229 --> 01:21:32,400
saying like you know you know you don't

1982
01:21:39,890 --> 01:21:33,239
know

1983
01:21:41,570 --> 01:21:39,900
without without difficult times and you

1984
01:21:43,550 --> 01:21:41,580
don't know when things are good you know

1985
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:43,560
and things are

1986
01:21:48,530 --> 01:21:45,360
and things

1987
01:21:49,490 --> 01:21:48,540
often uh you know what I mean really I

1988
01:21:52,010 --> 01:21:49,500
mean

1989
01:21:53,870 --> 01:21:52,020
if you you can make things happen you

1990
01:21:56,169 --> 01:21:53,880
know you can't make things happen you

1991
01:21:59,570 --> 01:21:56,179
can't make things happen

1992
01:22:02,510 --> 01:21:59,580
we're supposed to experience right

1993
01:22:04,850 --> 01:22:02,520
James I'm really sorry can can you just

1994
01:22:07,010 --> 01:22:04,860
tell me your story now um I'm just gonna

1995
01:22:08,689 --> 01:22:07,020
otherwise I'm gonna have to let you go

1996
01:22:10,430 --> 01:22:08,699
I'm really sorry for the difficulties

1997
01:22:13,130 --> 01:22:10,440
you've been going through uh but I was

1998
01:22:15,770 --> 01:22:13,140
hoping you might you might then

1999
01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:15,780
the whole reason for for the for the

2000
01:22:19,850 --> 01:22:18,239
open lines is for you to share some

2001
01:22:22,250 --> 01:22:19,860
other Supernatural stories you've had

2002
01:22:24,590 --> 01:22:22,260
like at the alien ghosts or whatnot

2003
01:22:26,810 --> 01:22:24,600
related

2004
01:22:29,750 --> 01:22:26,820
okay well no I have

2005
01:22:32,090 --> 01:22:29,760
I mean I've seen I've seen I've seen I

2006
01:22:34,430 --> 01:22:32,100
felt like I said well I have I saw a UF

2007
01:22:36,590 --> 01:22:34,440
I've had a UFO literally following me

2008
01:22:39,649 --> 01:22:36,600
before and before when I was younger

2009
01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:39,659
I've had a UFO following me

2010
01:22:44,149 --> 01:22:42,000
literally and that sounds crazy but on

2011
01:22:48,290 --> 01:22:44,159
the way to Tesco like literally there's

2012
01:22:52,130 --> 01:22:48,300
a here is above my above my head is a

2013
01:22:54,010 --> 01:22:52,140
boy orb in the sky

2014
01:22:57,530 --> 01:22:54,020
and um

2015
01:23:00,290 --> 01:22:57,540
and yeah no I mean to be honest I've

2016
01:23:01,490 --> 01:23:00,300
I've had a few experiences but um but no

2017
01:23:04,430 --> 01:23:01,500
that's fine if you want to let me go

2018
01:23:05,870 --> 01:23:04,440
that's fine I understand okay all right

2019
01:23:07,550 --> 01:23:05,880
well James thanks for calling I

2020
01:23:08,990 --> 01:23:07,560
appreciate it um I hope everything works

2021
01:23:10,930 --> 01:23:09,000
out for you and you get to see your

2022
01:23:13,310 --> 01:23:10,940
daughters

2023
01:23:17,090 --> 01:23:13,320
and my son yeah okay thank you very much

2024
01:23:21,950 --> 01:23:20,270
okay thank you James so um yeah I'll be

2025
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:21,960
on for a little bit a little bit longer

2026
01:23:26,030 --> 01:23:24,239
if any of you would like to call in to

2027
01:23:26,990 --> 01:23:26,040
share some of your UFO or Supernatural

2028
01:23:30,229 --> 01:23:27,000
stories

2029
01:23:32,030 --> 01:23:30,239
um uh please do so now if there's any uh

2030
01:23:33,709 --> 01:23:32,040
questions that are coming through the

2031
01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:33,719
chat or you would like to submit the

2032
01:23:38,090 --> 01:23:36,480
chat uh please do so now as well and uh

2033
01:23:40,250 --> 01:23:38,100
we can

2034
01:23:41,870 --> 01:23:40,260
whichever one comes first either a

2035
01:23:44,830 --> 01:23:41,880
person calling in or somebody asking

2036
01:23:48,530 --> 01:23:44,840
some questions but um yeah I'm glad

2037
01:23:50,510 --> 01:23:48,540
most of you were able to to join usually

2038
01:23:52,130 --> 01:23:50,520
I have a guest on but I haven't had open

2039
01:23:55,490 --> 01:23:52,140
lines in a while so I figured today

2040
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:55,500
would be a good time and um there's uh

2041
01:23:59,870 --> 01:23:58,080
there's a guess I've been trying to get

2042
01:24:01,130 --> 01:23:59,880
and they will

2043
01:24:03,770 --> 01:24:01,140
um I will try to get them for next

2044
01:24:05,450 --> 01:24:03,780
Wednesday at 7 pm uh they're very well

2045
01:24:07,550 --> 01:24:05,460
known in the UFO field they've been

2046
01:24:08,930 --> 01:24:07,560
around and sharing their stories and

2047
01:24:12,110 --> 01:24:08,940
been kind of

2048
01:24:15,709 --> 01:24:12,120
um in the in the UFO circuit since

2049
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:15,719
I think it was well since the 90s maybe

2050
01:24:20,810 --> 01:24:18,000
maybe a little a little sooner and it's

2051
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:20,820
more of a to have more of a andromedense

2052
01:24:25,070 --> 01:24:23,040
connection and so anyway

2053
01:24:26,689 --> 01:24:25,080
um I won't speak much more about that

2054
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:26,699
because I want to make sure I get them

2055
01:24:31,250 --> 01:24:29,280
first and then you'll get to to

2056
01:24:33,290 --> 01:24:31,260
um uh hear more from them and of course

2057
01:24:35,450 --> 01:24:33,300
as always you'll be able to ask them

2058
01:24:37,850 --> 01:24:35,460
questions when they're on during the Q a

2059
01:24:40,669 --> 01:24:37,860
segment or submit your questions

2060
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:40,679
um in the uh chat rooms whether it's on

2061
01:24:46,430 --> 01:24:43,920
YouTube Facebook or twitch

2062
01:24:49,790 --> 01:24:46,440
okay what else do we have here so

2063
01:24:52,010 --> 01:24:49,800
earlier today I saw um it's okay B and

2064
01:24:52,910 --> 01:24:52,020
ask a question and Michelle welcome as

2065
01:24:54,350 --> 01:24:52,920
well

2066
01:25:00,649 --> 01:24:54,360
m

2067
01:25:03,470 --> 01:25:00,659
and of course Hazel I haven't seen Hazel

2068
01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:03,480
in quite a while I'm but I'm glad you're

2069
01:25:08,090 --> 01:25:05,760
able to make it tonight with whichever

2070
01:25:10,250 --> 01:25:08,100
whatever the health problems are I'm

2071
01:25:12,350 --> 01:25:10,260
glad you're here and um

2072
01:25:15,169 --> 01:25:12,360
um I haven't met you personally but

2073
01:25:18,110 --> 01:25:15,179
overall those times when I started the

2074
01:25:20,570 --> 01:25:18,120
live stream you've been joining uh some

2075
01:25:23,149 --> 01:25:20,580
of these live open lines and so I kind

2076
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:23,159
of got to know you that way

2077
01:25:27,950 --> 01:25:25,199
um welcome Edward as well and looks like

2078
01:25:30,649 --> 01:25:27,960
you have a question also says what do

2079
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:30,659
you think what do you what do you think

2080
01:25:36,169 --> 01:25:35,280
is going on in school walk around Ranch

2081
01:25:38,870 --> 01:25:36,179
um

2082
01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:38,880
well that's a subject I personally have

2083
01:25:45,050 --> 01:25:43,440
not uh spent too much time on because

2084
01:25:47,169 --> 01:25:45,060
um

2085
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:47,179
it's

2086
01:25:52,490 --> 01:25:49,679
it almost seems like every other person

2087
01:25:54,350 --> 01:25:52,500
that I know goes down there has their

2088
01:25:56,209 --> 01:25:54,360
experiences they write about it they

2089
01:25:58,970 --> 01:25:56,219
tell about it record whatever they can

2090
01:26:01,250 --> 01:25:58,980
they'll show us on that and so

2091
01:26:04,310 --> 01:26:01,260
um I don't know I I personally have not

2092
01:26:07,010 --> 01:26:04,320
been there maybe one of these days I'll

2093
01:26:09,290 --> 01:26:07,020
I'll see if I can be within the vicinity

2094
01:26:11,090 --> 01:26:09,300
of it I think you can only get to that

2095
01:26:13,129 --> 01:26:11,100
property if you have

2096
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:13,139
um special access or permission to be on

2097
01:26:17,689 --> 01:26:14,400
that property because otherwise you're

2098
01:26:19,610 --> 01:26:17,699
trespassing and so I'm sorry I can't

2099
01:26:21,169 --> 01:26:19,620
tell you much there

2100
01:26:22,850 --> 01:26:21,179
um it's

2101
01:26:24,890 --> 01:26:22,860
all the stories I've heard and

2102
01:26:28,189 --> 01:26:24,900
especially at the just recent Ozark

2103
01:26:31,970 --> 01:26:28,199
Mountain UFO conference uh Katie page uh

2104
01:26:34,729 --> 01:26:31,980
one of the the Colorado director

2105
01:26:38,450 --> 01:26:34,739
director for mufon for the state of

2106
01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:38,460
Colorado she basically did some research

2107
01:26:43,370 --> 01:26:41,340
there and had some experiences and she

2108
01:26:45,530 --> 01:26:43,380
shared some very interesting stories and

2109
01:26:47,810 --> 01:26:45,540
there's something that apparently is

2110
01:26:50,810 --> 01:26:47,820
coming coming out with her and History

2111
01:26:52,910 --> 01:26:50,820
Channel and whatever was happening there

2112
01:26:54,410 --> 01:26:52,920
so that might be something you want to

2113
01:26:57,410 --> 01:26:54,420
check out but I'm sorry I can't tell you

2114
01:27:00,050 --> 01:26:58,310
okay

2115
01:27:05,930 --> 01:27:00,060
um

2116
01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:05,940
because

2117
01:27:11,209 --> 01:27:08,639
um I use telegram group that's live

2118
01:27:13,610 --> 01:27:11,219
right now and people can listen in uh

2119
01:27:16,970 --> 01:27:13,620
voice only on telegram so if you install

2120
01:27:19,370 --> 01:27:16,980
telegram either on your computer or on

2121
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:19,380
your phone and you can then find the

2122
01:27:24,110 --> 01:27:21,840
group the link for the UFO Hub telegram

2123
01:27:26,030 --> 01:27:24,120
group is in the description below and

2124
01:27:27,590 --> 01:27:26,040
you can join the group you'll see

2125
01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:27,600
there's a voice chat going on right now

2126
01:27:32,510 --> 01:27:29,760
and that's the way you can talk to me so

2127
01:27:34,129 --> 01:27:32,520
when you get into the room I'll see that

2128
01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:34,139
you're there raise your hand and that

2129
01:27:39,649 --> 01:27:36,719
that way I know you want to speak to me

2130
01:27:41,270 --> 01:27:39,659
Michelle asks do you still do you still

2131
01:27:44,030 --> 01:27:41,280
have contact can you tell me more about

2132
01:27:47,330 --> 01:27:44,040
getting them to talk to you I have been

2133
01:27:51,470 --> 01:27:47,340
trying for a while well

2134
01:27:53,330 --> 01:27:51,480
not not very often because

2135
01:27:55,970 --> 01:27:53,340
um it's actually I would even go as far

2136
01:27:58,010 --> 01:27:55,980
as very rare now because when I

2137
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:58,020
concluded what I concluded in Roberts

2138
01:28:02,570 --> 01:27:59,040
from Missouri

2139
01:28:04,490 --> 01:28:02,580
um in 2015 it was kind of

2140
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:04,500
um a natural

2141
01:28:10,129 --> 01:28:07,920
I guess just a natural down not not the

2142
01:28:12,410 --> 01:28:10,139
end but just you know basically just

2143
01:28:15,709 --> 01:28:12,420
kind of a downslope of whatever I was

2144
01:28:19,490 --> 01:28:15,719
experiencing it was such a packed five

2145
01:28:23,149 --> 01:28:19,500
years of just weirdest craziest

2146
01:28:25,850 --> 01:28:23,159
that can ever possibly happen and so

2147
01:28:28,129 --> 01:28:25,860
um and obviously out of that UFO Hub

2148
01:28:30,110 --> 01:28:28,139
came about you know so then my whole

2149
01:28:32,750 --> 01:28:30,120
point was with that last download that I

2150
01:28:34,010 --> 01:28:32,760
received was to just kind of then use

2151
01:28:35,689 --> 01:28:34,020
all my skills that I've learned

2152
01:28:38,270 --> 01:28:35,699
throughout my life dealing with

2153
01:28:40,669 --> 01:28:38,280
technology cameras computers all these

2154
01:28:43,550 --> 01:28:40,679
things doing graphic design all my

2155
01:28:45,709 --> 01:28:43,560
abilities to just make UFO Hub happen so

2156
01:28:47,450 --> 01:28:45,719
I don't need any kind of outside help

2157
01:28:49,370 --> 01:28:47,460
everything I need I can just figure out

2158
01:28:51,709 --> 01:28:49,380
on my own if I need to figure out what

2159
01:28:53,570 --> 01:28:51,719
mic to use I do my own research and

2160
01:28:56,090 --> 01:28:53,580
figure it out computers and whatever

2161
01:28:58,850 --> 01:28:56,100
else is what's needed so naturally then

2162
01:29:01,970 --> 01:28:58,860
it kind of started me doing this because

2163
01:29:03,770 --> 01:29:01,980
I got what I needed to get out of it

2164
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:03,780
um I have still I don't know what

2165
01:29:08,270 --> 01:29:06,239
percentage to give give you most of you

2166
01:29:10,189 --> 01:29:08,280
out there I try to share as much as I

2167
01:29:12,169 --> 01:29:10,199
can but even that is probably still

2168
01:29:14,750 --> 01:29:12,179
Maybe

2169
01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:14,760
maybe 40 percent of all the experiences

2170
01:29:20,330 --> 01:29:17,760
because some things are very directed

2171
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:20,340
towards me it was a lot of resolving of

2172
01:29:26,870 --> 01:29:24,239
of uh um relationships and issues and

2173
01:29:28,790 --> 01:29:26,880
all these other things that just had to

2174
01:29:31,070 --> 01:29:28,800
be resolved because it's talking about

2175
01:29:33,890 --> 01:29:31,080
energy it's energy that's in the way of

2176
01:29:35,870 --> 01:29:33,900
you progressing you know spiritually and

2177
01:29:38,149 --> 01:29:35,880
so it had to be addressed I had to go

2178
01:29:40,850 --> 01:29:38,159
through all that so necessarily telling

2179
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:40,860
stories about that it's kind of boring

2180
01:29:47,689 --> 01:29:44,719
you know because it's it's very

2181
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:47,699
subjective very very personal intense

2182
01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:49,920
sense I don't mind sharing it but just

2183
01:29:54,050 --> 01:29:52,500
most people probably just fall asleep I

2184
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:54,060
just I kind of covered these things that

2185
01:29:57,950 --> 01:29:55,920
I like to think that people generally

2186
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:57,960
would like to know and all the

2187
01:30:01,189 --> 01:29:59,520
experiences that I had that's what I

2188
01:30:03,290 --> 01:30:01,199
should that's why I share but

2189
01:30:05,030 --> 01:30:03,300
occasionally though I would especially

2190
01:30:07,010 --> 01:30:05,040
where I live here obviously as Michael

2191
01:30:08,810 --> 01:30:07,020
was saying earlier it was very dark in

2192
01:30:11,030 --> 01:30:08,820
Robertsville it's still very similar

2193
01:30:13,250 --> 01:30:11,040
area uh basically in the woods now

2194
01:30:16,250 --> 01:30:13,260
instead of in the woods Duro I'm now in

2195
01:30:19,250 --> 01:30:16,260
the woods in Arkansas and so I would

2196
01:30:22,850 --> 01:30:19,260
walk out and needing to go somewhere

2197
01:30:25,689 --> 01:30:22,860
with it at night or or at different

2198
01:30:29,390 --> 01:30:25,699
times today and I would see specific

2199
01:30:32,870 --> 01:30:29,400
very close up orb or anything would come

2200
01:30:35,390 --> 01:30:32,880
into view and then slowly go away and

2201
01:30:38,330 --> 01:30:35,400
just kind of disappear and I would stop

2202
01:30:40,729 --> 01:30:38,340
feeding slow you know weird Sensations

2203
01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:40,739
that oh okay they're there whoever they

2204
01:30:44,510 --> 01:30:42,719
are for whatever reason I've stopped

2205
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:44,520
asking questions regarding that because

2206
01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:46,560
whatever I need to know my

2207
01:30:51,649 --> 01:30:48,960
subconsciously got it and if there's

2208
01:30:53,870 --> 01:30:51,659
more for me to know consciously I would

2209
01:30:56,570 --> 01:30:53,880
have been you know given those answers

2210
01:30:58,370 --> 01:30:56,580
right there or later on so I just

2211
01:31:01,189 --> 01:30:58,380
usually just

2212
01:31:02,930 --> 01:31:01,199
um it's it's quite the opposite in the

2213
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:02,940
very beginning it was like my whole

2214
01:31:06,530 --> 01:31:04,560
world will stop I would focus on that

2215
01:31:08,629 --> 01:31:06,540
now I just like oh okay it happened move

2216
01:31:10,970 --> 01:31:08,639
on and whatever needs to come out of

2217
01:31:13,490 --> 01:31:10,980
that will eventually happen so anyway to

2218
01:31:16,550 --> 01:31:13,500
answer your question not as often very

2219
01:31:18,490 --> 01:31:16,560
rare now but it's not the end

2220
01:31:20,510 --> 01:31:18,500
um it's

2221
01:31:22,189 --> 01:31:20,520
obviously uh if you I don't know if you

2222
01:31:25,490 --> 01:31:22,199
heard some stories now it's kind of

2223
01:31:27,649 --> 01:31:25,500
involving uh my children more of the

2224
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:27,659
middle child you know and so on so we've

2225
01:31:32,330 --> 01:31:29,280
been kind of dealing dealing with that

2226
01:31:34,790 --> 01:31:32,340
and just kind of um being there for him

2227
01:31:37,070 --> 01:31:34,800
for whatever is happening there and so

2228
01:31:40,310 --> 01:31:37,080
thank thankfully everything is just fine

2229
01:31:42,050 --> 01:31:40,320
he's adjusted very well but it's one of

2230
01:31:43,310 --> 01:31:42,060
these weird things that when you live

2231
01:31:46,490 --> 01:31:43,320
this weird

2232
01:31:49,250 --> 01:31:46,500
weird life and it's not a normal thing

2233
01:31:52,370 --> 01:31:49,260
for an average outside person over there

2234
01:31:54,590 --> 01:31:52,380
all we have is each other and close

2235
01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:54,600
friends and family to kind of deal with

2236
01:31:57,709 --> 01:31:56,400
whatever we're dealing with because it's

2237
01:32:00,649 --> 01:31:57,719
not like the government is going to step

2238
01:32:03,050 --> 01:32:00,659
in because just recently they only

2239
01:32:05,510 --> 01:32:03,060
opened up an office to keep track of

2240
01:32:07,970 --> 01:32:05,520
uaps or UFOs whatever they want to call

2241
01:32:09,530 --> 01:32:07,980
them and but even then that's very

2242
01:32:11,390 --> 01:32:09,540
that's absolutely really nothing

2243
01:32:13,669 --> 01:32:11,400
compared to what's really been happening

2244
01:32:15,950 --> 01:32:13,679
to people and so

2245
01:32:18,229 --> 01:32:15,960
um at the end of the day all we have is

2246
01:32:20,090 --> 01:32:18,239
ourselves to solve whatever problems I

2247
01:32:22,129 --> 01:32:20,100
can't go to anybody I might ask a friend

2248
01:32:23,689 --> 01:32:22,139
for an opinion but at the end of the day

2249
01:32:27,229 --> 01:32:23,699
I have to

2250
01:32:29,209 --> 01:32:27,239
keep at it and and keep at it until an

2251
01:32:32,330 --> 01:32:29,219
answer comes to me or I'm given an

2252
01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:32,340
answer or an an understanding about what

2253
01:32:36,470 --> 01:32:34,320
is happening so I hope that answers your

2254
01:32:41,510 --> 01:32:36,480
question

2255
01:32:46,010 --> 01:32:44,450
all right uh and for those that are

2256
01:32:47,990 --> 01:32:46,020
wondering submit a question so I know

2257
01:32:50,510 --> 01:32:48,000
that whether or not it's directly

2258
01:32:53,390 --> 01:32:50,520
towards me please um include three

2259
01:32:55,250 --> 01:32:53,400
asterix's uh before you submit the

2260
01:32:57,649 --> 01:32:55,260
question so I know it's actually for me

2261
01:33:00,169 --> 01:32:57,659
otherwise uh I'm just gonna assume you

2262
01:33:02,629 --> 01:33:00,179
guys are chatting in the rooms and then

2263
01:33:04,729 --> 01:33:02,639
of course if you still uh would like to

2264
01:33:06,770 --> 01:33:04,739
talk to me over telegram as I mentioned

2265
01:33:09,050 --> 01:33:06,780
install telegram on your phone or

2266
01:33:11,990 --> 01:33:09,060
computer uh join the group that's going

2267
01:33:13,310 --> 01:33:12,000
on live now the the voice chat and uh

2268
01:33:15,430 --> 01:33:13,320
then you'll be able to speak to me

2269
01:33:19,010 --> 01:33:15,440
directly

2270
01:33:21,530 --> 01:33:19,020
okay um Ascension bar welcome good to

2271
01:33:26,870 --> 01:33:24,830
okay it seems like

2272
01:33:29,090 --> 01:33:26,880
most of the chatter was happening while

2273
01:33:34,430 --> 01:33:29,100
I was talking to Michael so it's just

2274
01:33:38,510 --> 01:33:36,229
and

2275
01:33:40,490 --> 01:33:38,520
let's see here for those who are just

2276
01:33:41,450 --> 01:33:40,500
listed on podcasts I'm sorry for these

2277
01:33:44,270 --> 01:33:41,460
long

2278
01:33:46,790 --> 01:33:44,280
silences of

2279
01:33:48,229 --> 01:33:46,800
sometimes dead air that's because I'm

2280
01:33:50,870 --> 01:33:48,239
just looking through to see if there's

2281
01:33:52,669 --> 01:33:50,880
any other questions or anyone else

2282
01:33:54,649 --> 01:33:52,679
wanting to chat

2283
01:33:56,689 --> 01:33:54,659
okay well

2284
01:33:59,209 --> 01:33:56,699
um I guess I'll leave you to that uh

2285
01:34:01,189 --> 01:33:59,219
most of you I guess uh there's no one

2286
01:34:03,350 --> 01:34:01,199
else there's some people listening but

2287
01:34:04,970 --> 01:34:03,360
not necessarily wanting to to join and

2288
01:34:06,410 --> 01:34:04,980
talk to me so

2289
01:34:10,010 --> 01:34:06,420
um I'll leave it at that thank you all

2290
01:34:12,770 --> 01:34:10,020
very much for uh joining me today and uh

2291
01:34:15,590 --> 01:34:12,780
joining or join me next week Wednesday

2292
01:34:18,770 --> 01:34:15,600
at 7 pm I should actually have a guest

2293
01:34:20,750 --> 01:34:18,780
on so there will be most likely a

2294
01:34:22,490 --> 01:34:20,760
segment for Q a so if you have a

2295
01:34:23,930 --> 01:34:22,500
question for them please use that

2296
01:34:25,729 --> 01:34:23,940
opportunity to actually ask them

2297
01:34:27,350 --> 01:34:25,739
whatever it is that they would like to

2298
01:34:30,290 --> 01:34:27,360
ask because

2299
01:34:32,990 --> 01:34:30,300
um if you've read their books or there's

2300
01:34:34,729 --> 01:34:33,000
something that interests you about their

2301
01:34:36,350 --> 01:34:34,739
specific work that would be an

2302
01:34:37,550 --> 01:34:36,360
opportunity where you can where you can

2303
01:34:39,229 --> 01:34:37,560
do that

2304
01:34:41,330 --> 01:34:39,239
um I'm not saying that there aren't any

2305
01:34:43,850 --> 01:34:41,340
other shows or platforms out there that

2306
01:34:45,770 --> 01:34:43,860
do that but the whole point is that all

2307
01:34:47,990 --> 01:34:45,780
of these experiences are ours to be had

2308
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:48,000
all the research we all do is for our

2309
01:34:53,689 --> 01:34:50,639
own benefit as individuals and as a

2310
01:34:55,729 --> 01:34:53,699
society so the more you can find out the

2311
01:34:58,070 --> 01:34:55,739
more you can ask directly the better I

2312
01:35:00,290 --> 01:34:58,080
mean I can ask the question I might hit

2313
01:35:02,510 --> 01:35:00,300
the spot on and ask exactly what you

2314
01:35:05,149 --> 01:35:02,520
wanted to know but sometimes I don't

2315
01:35:08,090 --> 01:35:05,159
know so I hope you take that opportunity

2316
01:35:10,910 --> 01:35:08,100
so thank you all very much have a good

2317
01:35:13,310 --> 01:35:10,920
evening wherever you all are and tune in

2318
01:35:14,870 --> 01:35:13,320
next week Wednesday at 7. all right take